Is the Constitution outdated? (edit: RIP)

[mastermind]

It's called a living document. It wasn't meant to be some written in stone document, but it shouldn't be changed at the whim of whatever partisan bickering is going on at any particular moment.

Partisan bickering? Are you paying attention breh? These people are actively destroying the constitution.

 

[Json]

Partisan bickering? Are you paying attention breh? These people are actively destroying the constitution.

Destroying it by not doing their job isn’t the same as the laws themselves are oudated or wrong

That’s like saying traffic lights don’t work cause people run the lights and the cops don’t stop them.

 

[mastermind]

That’s like saying traffic lights don’t work cause people run the lights and the cops don’t stop them.

That would mean it wasn’t working

 

[Json]

That would mean it wasn’t working

No. It means the law is being broken by those meant to uphold it. That’s why you don’t want to make it easy to change the Constitution but not impossible.

Prohibition was passed and people ignored it cause the people in power where using their power to enforce a moral standard on the people based on a group believing they knew how to fix society. It didn’t work. We didn’t abolish the entire government because of a failure by it. We elected new people to remove the amendment and passed new laws on alcohol.

 

[mastermind]

Prohibition was passed and people ignored it

And then they repealed it

What I’m really saying for is we need a lot of changes in the constitution to insure its being followed.

 

[Json]

And then they repealed it

What I’m really saying for is we need a lot of changes in the constitution to insure its being followed.

I don’t know what a lot is but in general we have state and federal laws that are just as important as the Constitution. If people aren’t following those I’m not sure if changing the Constitution will suddenly make people care.

There’s something fundamental broken about the Republican Party, fundraising in general, and maybe the two party system overall.

 

[mastermind]

I don’t know what a lot is but in general we have state and federal laws that are just as important as the Constitution

Those laws come from the constitution.

 

[Json]

Those laws come from the constitution.

Yes they derive power from it but if state and federal laws aren’t being followed what does changing the Constitution do?

Isn’t the problem in society and it’s relationship to the law?

 

[DEAD7]

Yep I agree also cant stand this trash ass electoral college.

electoral system is outdated for sure

Yes, it is.

*The electoral college is outdated and should be abolished.

Neither the Senate, nor the Supreme Court, nor the president is elected on the basis of one person, one vote. That’s why a state like Montana, with 883,000 residents, gets the same number of Senators as California, with 33 million people. Consistency would require that if we abolish the Electoral College, we rid ourselves of the Senate as well. Are we ready to do that? are we ready to stop having presidential candidates seek support throughout the nation?


Sure it needs some tweeks, but to call a living document expressly written to thwart the excesses of majoritarianism, and provide checks on state tyranny outdated is silly to me.
In fact, I think it provides a measure of coherence to our nation.

 

[newworldafro]

Sohh The Root ..... How You Feel About Writers of the Constitution/Bill of Rights Being Slaveholders

Loose your rights brehs.

I think digital information and the technology growth should be incorporated into the 4th amendment.



should include/protect

>license plate scanning technology

>metadata scraping (relating to phones)

>ip address logging on social media and other sites

>stop and frisk - not digital but a major issue

>regional specific phone jacking (Stingray devices that act as pseudo cell towers and scrape data from phones ex. contacts, call log, recent text msgs )

It already by default covers those things you mentioned....."effects". The idea is to be general, because if you go specific and new ubiquitous technology comes along that is not named in your list, then the courts will just say it's not covered.


It's already covered, but we have a Congress, judicial system, etc that seem to back down when these things are brought up with regards to the Bill of Rights.

 

[Geek Nasty]

No because it's designed to be updated. You don't like something, get your fellow citizens to change things.

Laws are outdated not the Constitution

 

[King Static X]

No because it's designed to be updated. You don't like something, get your fellow citizens to change things.

Laws are outdated not the Constitution

But the Constitution hasn't been frequently updated. By definition, that makes it outdated.

 

[mastermind]

Can we add that we may not be able to charge the President with a crime?

 

[mastermind]

@Big Boss

 

[DEAD7]

But the Constitution hasn't been frequently updated. By definition, that makes it outdated.

No, that means there hasn’t been enough support for any change in particular.
It’s low key a testament to how sound the constitution isor how out of it the citizenry is take your pick.