Is the Nets trade with the Celtics the stupidest trade in NBA history?

[mastermind]

Lakers fans didn't get Chris Paul for free like they got Pau Gasol (and Kareem, Worthy, Magic, etc) for free and they're still tight about it. None of the things Boston gotten in the deal has panned out yet, so we have to wait to see if it tops one of the numerous lopsided Lakers deals

Im not a Laker fan.

That failed trade does not belong in this discussion is my main point. New Orleans would have gotten really good pieces.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Of course it's dumb IN RETROSPECT.

But had the shyt worked out the way they planned (them winning a title in that 2 year span after the trade) then nobody looks at it as stupid. They just basically took a shot that was high-risk, high-reward, and they lost.

I really never thought it was stupid at the beginning, so I can't say it's stupid now because it didn't work. If somebody called it a desperate move I wouldn't disagree though. That Russian just wanted to make Brooklyn a title team immediately, and this is the flip side when it doesn't work.

It never really had a possibility to really fail, to me, for Boston though, even if they never end up getting high draft picks.

They had no core to build to even think of maybe winning a chip. The pieces didn't come close to fitting. Kg was past done and Paul wasn't gonna give u more than 13-15 points per

Plus the heat wasn't gonna lose to anybody out east. Makes no sense to rush that process. Not to mention you had bout 7 other teams better than Brooklyn

 

[Sccit]

Nobody want them old garbage ass nikkaz on a rebuilding team goofy. Wouldn't have even Got AD either.

WAS STILL A BETTER TRADE ON PAPER, PERIOD.

 

[MJ Truth]

a lot of people thought it was stupid from the beginning. I did.

KG and Pierce looked semi washed their last season in Boston.


Goran Dragic was a young euro player who had potential.

What are we doing here breh? Trades are made for potential and Dragic became a really good to great NBA player. That would have helped the Hornets out more than Eric Gordon or Al Fariq Aminu.

It was not a bad trade at all.

It's very doubtful that Dragic reaches his potential in New Orleans though (and he certainly isn't a "great" player as is). If we're talking at the time and just based off of potential, Gordon's potential >>> Dragic's; too bad he didn't wanna play there and couldn't stay healthy.

 

[MJ Truth]

They had no core to build to even think of maybe winning a chip. The pieces didn't come close to fitting. Kg was past done and Paul wasn't gonna give u more than 13-15 points per

Plus the heat wasn't gonna lose to anybody out east. Makes no sense to rush that process. Not to mention you had bout 7 other teams better than Brooklyn

No, there weren't.

That team had Deron Williams and Joe Johnson at a time where both were still seen as All Star players, and Brook Lopez who was an All Star level center on the comeup. IN RETROSPECT we see all of the flaws but to act like the Nets just made some ridiculous inexplicable move at the time is simply not genuine.

And, once again, it's easy to say, looking back on it, that nobody was going to beat the Heat in the East, but it's not like they were invincible. We saw them tested by the Pacers, we saw them tested by the Celtics (with KG and Pierce) a couple of years prior. And Brooklyn was pretty competitive with Miami in the series they played against them.

The problem, like Pierce has said, Deron Williams nor Joe Johnson were really the leaders the team needed them to be. Pierce and KG thought they were coming in to be complementary pieces, but because of the personalities of the other two, the team really needed Pierce and Garnett to be the leaders, and they weren't up to that. Plus you had Jason Kidd as a rookie coach coming right out of the league himself. KG was pretty much done for, but Pierce played well in Washington even after he left Brooklyn, because they just had him play a very specific role. Brooklyn needed him to actually be a star player basically to succeed.

The move wasn't really stupid, just short sighted, and the window was INCREDIBLY small. They just threw all of their chips on the table, and didn't win the bet. shyt happens. Unfortunately for them, because of the draft picks, they put themselves in a position where they could never make a bet again for the next half a decade.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

No, there weren't.

That team had Deron Williams and Joe Johnson at a time where both were still seen as All Star players, and Brook Lopez who was an All Star level center on the comeup. IN RETROSPECT we see all of the flaws but to act like the Nets just made some ridiculous inexplicable move at the time is simply not genuine.

And, once again, it's easy to say, looking back on it, that nobody was going to beat the Heat in the East, but it's not like they were invincible. We saw them tested by the Pacers, we saw them tested by the Celtics (with KG and Pierce) a couple of years prior. And Brooklyn was pretty competitive with Miami in the series they played against them.

The problem, like Pierce has said, Deron Williams nor Joe Johnson were really the leaders the team needed them to be. Pierce and KG thought they were coming in to be complementary pieces, but because of the personalities of the other two, the team really needed Pierce and Garnett to be the leaders, and they weren't up to that. Plus you had Jason Kidd as a rookie coach coming right out of the league himself. KG was pretty much done for, but Pierce played well in Washington even after he left Brooklyn, because they just had him play a very specific role. Brooklyn needed him to actually be a star player basically to succeed.

The move wasn't really stupid, just short sighted, and the window was INCREDIBLY small. They just threw all of their chips on the table, and didn't win the bet. shyt happens. Unfortunately for them, because of the draft picks, they put themselves in a position where they could never make a bet again for the next half a decade.

Bruh we on the coli. The thread is getting upped right now. They had no shot st competing and almost all of us knew that.

Same way we all call that raiders trading for Carson palmer trade stupid and the same way we called the Vikings trading for sam Bradford stupid and wouldn't work

 

[beenz]

if the celtics win chips then yes, but for now its the gasol trade

the lakers trading the grizzlies marc gasol for pau gasol was hardly a bad trade for either team.

 

[beenz]

Nobody knew Garnett was so short. The nets basically traded for Pierce because Garnett gave absolutely nothing from day 1.

I believe garnett had a no trade clause, so why would he allow the trade to the nets if he didn't wanna be there or put forth an effort?

 

[x-factor7]

I had to look up the actual trade because I had forgotten a ton of players had been moved


Brooklyn receives: Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Jason Terry and D.J. White

Boston receives: Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks, Kris Joseph, Keith Bogans, three first-round picks (2014, 2016 and 2018), plus the right to swap first-rounders in 2017.


Billy couldn't protect one of those picks?

 

[stepbackj34spud]

I believe garnett had a no trade clause, so why would he allow the trade to the nets if he didn't wanna be there or put forth an effort?

Nobody, not even KG himself knew he was so shot. He made the all-star team the previous season, to playing like absolute shyt.. He couldnt hit one shot with the nets breh... That has nothing to to with effort.. he was just done.

 

[daboywonder2002]

the only way its not is if all of those players drafted are garbage.

exactly, you gotta hit home runs on all the picks.

 

[Jplaya2023]

the lakers trading the grizzlies marc gasol for pau gasol was hardly a bad trade for either team.

it changed nba history

the celtics really should have 3 peated in that time frame. Instead they got 1, KG gor hurt, then the refs screwed them the following year.

 

[I.V.]

But had the shyt worked out the way they planned (them winning a title in that 2 year span after the trade)

Yeah and if it turned out that Paul Piece shyt gold and baby LeBrons, it would been great too.




It is easily one of the worst trades in NBA history, if not sports history.

 

[William F. Russell]

Yes it was. The only solace is that Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown aren't once in a lifetime players.

If Markelle is a great player, Billy King can't ever step foot in the tri-state area.

Not once-in-a-lifetime players but they're both very good players with high ceilings.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Not once-in-a-lifetime players but they're both very good players with high ceilings.

Yeah I'm downplaying them for my own narrative otherwise I have to admit that it's more of a major L than it actually is.