Isiah Thomas Appreciation Thread

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Well, to be fair, Jordan's career only includes 1990-93 and 1995-98. We don't wanna talk about any of the guys who were actually beating Jordan.

Word just like isiahs career only includes when the pistons were in the finals and gloss over them years he missed the playoffs and was getting bounced in the 1st round before he got a squad
 

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Word just like isiahs career only includes when the pistons were in the finals and gloss over them years he missed the playoffs and was getting bounced in the 1st round before he got a squad
Interesting because you definitely hear people bring up the Bulls "finally" getting over the Pistons a lot. People don't gloss over that, but that's a part of the MJ agenda, so :yeshrug:
 
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Well, to be fair, Jordan's career only includes 1990-93 and 1995-98. We don't wanna talk about any of the guys who were actually beating Jordan.

that’s y it’s so crazy to me. The Pistons swept the Celtics and Lakers (granted Magic got hurt) in the 89 run. Jordan stans dong need to elevate the players he denied rings to amp up his legend. That 91 victory over Thomas is worth way more than all the times she shyt on Ewing.

And then, when we talk about 91 Detroit. He beat a Pistons team that was working on a 4th straight trip to the finals.
 

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Word just like isiahs career only includes when the pistons were in the finals and gloss over them years he missed the playoffs and was getting bounced in the 1st round before he got a squad

How often is Zeke's career discussed at all though? nikkas talk about Jordan every day and inevitiably "6-0" or "6/6" or all the guys who he denied rings are gonna be come up, like his career was only 6 years long or something. Just the other day Sources said his "watch" didn't start until 91. You can't even begin to compare the two.
 
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Word just like isiahs career only includes when the pistons were in the finals and gloss over them years he missed the playoffs and was getting bounced in the 1st round before he got a squad

Isiah doesn’t get the love MJ does, and definitely not to the extent that we ignore the rough spots of his career.
 

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Interesting because you definitely hear people bring up the Bulls "finally" getting over the Pistons a lot. People don't gloss over that, but that's a part of the MJ agenda, so :yeshrug:

except it’s not an agenda , it’s been well documented the bulls couldn’t beat the pistons 3 years in a row this has been known. What we don’t hear is how Isiah was struggling to make the playoffs/getting bounced in the 1st round before he got a squad just like Jordan did :ohhh:
 

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It's actually low key sickening that the NBA and ESPN and mainstream media still insists on pushing their Jordan narrative to the point that now young fans who weren't even around then now hate Isiah Thomas.
The only young fans I’ve seen that hate Zeke are the heavy analytic types. The ones who aren’t i usually saw rank him 2nd or 3rd
 

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GOAT little guard. He could do it all....score...playmake...defend...lead. Dude was tough and clutch. I honestly feel bad for people that are allowing Mike and media to deny them of this greatness.
Part of it is that he was actually willing to sacrifice to win. Most players are willing to win under their own terms but aren't willing to take the hit to their stats to empower their teammates. Isiah was actually willing to do that and helped raise the games of the players around him. Now you get people pointing at his stats saying he really wasn't as good advertised. I look at Duncan the same way. Everybody that played back then recognize though. Even those that hate him say he's the truth on that court. Plus he was one of the best actual leaders in NBA history to me.
 

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How often is Zeke's career discussed at all though? nikkas talk about Jordan every day and inevitiably "6-0" or "6/6" or all the guys who he denied rings are gonna be come up, like his career was only 6 years long or something. Just the other day Sources said his "watch" didn't start until 91. You can't even begin to compare the two.

he’s considered a top 5 pg ever and single handedly gets credit for beating Jordan,bird and magic.

Isiah doesn’t get the love MJ does, and definitely not to the extent that we ignore the rough spots of his career.

:dahell: jordan is considered the goat why should Isiah get the same love?
 

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It's actually low key sickening that the NBA and ESPN and mainstream media still insists on pushing their Jordan narrative to the point that now young fans who weren't even around then now hate Isiah Thomas.
bruh, i just talked about this with my lil brother...he texted me, hatin' like shyt on Isiah..i had to pull out my cape
 

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he’s considered a top 5 pg ever and single handedly gets credit for beating Jordan,bird and magic.



:dahell: jordan is considered the goat why should Isiah get the same love?

That's not what I asked you. Zeke is not talked about like that, so how would you expect a deep dive into his total career? Conversely Mike is talked about like that, and yet we either ignore the early/late years or spin them on his behalf. Like I said, you can't even begin to compare.
 

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Part of it is that he was actually willing to sacrifice to win. Most players are willing to win under their own terms but aren't willing to take the hit to their stats to empower their teammates. Isiah was actually willing to do that and helped raise the games of the players around him. Now you get people pointing at his stats saying he really wasn't as good advertised. I look at Duncan the same way. Everybody that played back then recognize though. Even those that hate him say he's the truth on that court. Plus he was one of the best actual leaders in NBA history to me.

It's not like either guys numbers are bad though...both pretty close to 20/10 even with sacrificing. I think it is more about narratives. Niether was selected as the guy or on the glamour squads/markets and not only that, they knocked off or stood in the way of the chosen ones.
 
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