NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
You are not arguing Chuck’s point.
Isiah Thomas finished top 5 in MVP voting one time in his whole career
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Players and coaches say a lot of things, then we look at the facts and realize it’s not true often times.
This is why destroying classic sports narratives and mythologies is so hard because people can’t accept the truth.
Bleed The Freak
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You notice their only defense of putting Zeke down is his "shots average & scoring" as if that's the end-all be-all of a great player and his accomplishments. As if Zeke didn't impact the whole game doing anything else
Proof that all these junkies and dummies are just stat-seeking morons.
Jalen Hurts this season just proved stats ain't the whole fukkin thing.
Dude has to feed Dumars, Laimbeer, Aguirre, guard the likes of Price, Dennis Johnson, Cheeks.
This thread is a fukkin joke
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He played like ass against the bulls in 89 and 90, they won because they had the better team. 1991 he was ass as well but the team couldn’t carry him anymore and that was the end of their chapter.Dudes acting like being a facilitator, controlling the pace of the game and then taking over when necessary is a negative trait now
Like the Pistons had a snowballs chance in hell defeating MJ, Magic or Bird without him
You ain't defeating or being remotely competitive with those guys without being an all-time great
Pistons was Wizards status before he walked in the door
Big upping Paul who got locked up by a very flawed Bucks team while slandering Zeke
Still dancing around Paul blowing a 3-1 lead and 2-0 finals lead
I don’t know what’s impressive about beating the 89 lakers with no Magic or Scott is something that’s praise worthy.
I also don’t see how Isiah Playing like garbage and winning means he’s better than Paul lol
You also haven’t named one thing he does better because you know you can’t
The problem is other players impact the game beyond scoring as well.
Why you acting like he’s the only one
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Chuck Daly saying Zeke sacrificed his scoring for the better of the team is a false narrative because you want to keep your point active no matter what.
Thats a you problem.
Bleed The Freak
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The problem is other players impact the game beyond scoring as well.
Why you acting like he’s the only one
Chris Paul blew a 3-1 lead
And a 2-0 Finals lead
Address
Bleed The Freak
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He played like ass against the bulls in 89 and 90, they won because they had the better team. 1991 he was ass as well but the team couldn’t carry him anymore and that was the end of their chapter.
I don’t know what’s impressive about beating the 89 lakers with no Magic or Scott is something that’s praise worthy.
I also don’t see how Isiah Playing like garbage and winning means he’s better than Paul lol
You also haven’t named one thing he does better because you know you can’t
How about winning
If he scarified his scoring numbers we would see a substantial difference in shot attempts.
But again, he averaged 16 shots a game his last 1st team all nba season, and 16 shots a game in the two pistons title years.
Again, we’re gonna go with facts here over narratives and coach speak
Winning when you play like garbage and your team still wins? Like the 1989 and 1990 bulls series?How about winning
Zeke wasn’t winning those series either.
Address what aspect of basketball he’s better than Paul other than having a defense to carry him when he’s plays terrible in the playoffs.
Lol if Giannis and Krhis Middleton didn’t play in the finals Paul would be a champion. But he’s not lucky like Zeke was for the best player on the opposing team to be hurt the whole series lol.
Bleed The Freak
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Zeke is not losing to that Bucks team
He is not letting Josh Smith take him outta the playoffs
Having a bad game against Larry FUKKIN Bird in game 6 is hardly horrific.
He came back and popped them the next season
Truthfully his numbers weren’t good enough for MVP. Yall juelzing in here about that.Waking up to this zeke slander is absolutely appalling! MVP balloting is and always been a narrative driven exercise. Zeke was always a polarizing figure back in the day and didn’t shuffle and grin. Top 3 PG all time. The premise behind this thread is scandalous.
Why? Zeke lost to the 1984 Knicks but he wouldn’t lose to the 2021 bucks when Giannis had an all time series?Zeke is not losing to that Bucks team
He is not letting Josh Smith take him outta the playoffs
Having a bad game against Larry FUKKIN Bird in game 6 is hardly horrific.
He came back and popped them the next season
Again, Zeke only won his first ring because the opposing sides best player and another starter got hurt
Because He was never a superstar like that. He was always in that second tier of player, even when he made first team all nba he was blown out of the water by the actual superstars of the game.
He and his Stan’s try to place him in convos he has no business in because his team just happened to beat actual superstars and their teams lol.
Imagine chauncey billips claiming to be in the same tier as Kobe LeBron wade or shaq because “he” beat them in the playoffs lmao
