It’s A Splash Bros Reunion! Are You Kuminga To The Poole Party? Warriors 2022 Season Thread

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I just explained to you.

"Steph goes to the bench midway through the first quarter, and Wiggins stays on the floor. Kerr's doing this so he the offense can run through Wiggins' hands to keep him motivated. Steph comes back near the end of the first quarter, and Wiggins/Poole go to the bench. Now, Steph is back leading the offense. Wiggins comes back a couple minutes into the second quarter to play alongside Steph, and then Steph goes back to the bench midway through the second quarter and in comes Poole. The offense is now running though Wiggins again."

When Steph is in the game, he's leading the offense.
When Steph goes to the bench, Wiggins is leading the offense in that 6th man role.

Steph and Wiggins have typically always played the majority of their minutes together, but Kerr has realized Wiggins isn't aggressive when he's playing alongside Steph, and just stands in the corner. The initiative he's now taken is, split the time they have together, so that Wiggins can have time to himself on the floor without Steph. That affects Poole's development because he's supposed to be handling the ball when Steph's on the bench. But now, Wiggins is in that role.

To reiterate:

Normally, when Steph goes to the bench at the end of the first quarter, the 6th man comes in and leads the offense. But now, Steph is going to the bench midway through the first quarter, and the only reason for that is, to have Wiggins leading the offense to keep him motivated. That's what the 6th man does; he relieves the primary ball-handler and main offensive option when they go to the bench. That's the role Wiggins is now playing.

In yesterday's game, the only time that Poole had leading the offense was in the final 3-4 minutes of the game when Wiggins and Steph both went to the bench.

Do you see why I'm worried for Poole now?

The Warriors are going out of their way to coddle Wiggins, and it's fukking up the offense and development of Poole.


Well so what if they trade Wiggins since the dubs have assets to go all in… Wouldn’t that new player still take away from Poole’s development?
 
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Well so what if they trade Wiggins since the dubs have assets to go all in… Wouldn’t that new player still take away from Poole’s development?
If that player is like Wiggins, yes.

But how many players that have been in the Warriors system since 2014 have needed the ball force-fed to them to keep them motivated?

Wiggins is one of a very few.

Nearly everyone that comes onto this team fits in seamlessly, gets their touches, and works together as one. That's why everyone works so damn hard on defense because they feel like they're a part of something, rather than just a sidepiece. That's why the whole egalitarian strength in numbers thing exists. Nobody is stepping on each other's toes trying to get touches because the ball moves and everyone touches it. It's why Steph is the easiest superstar in NBA history to play with. You will not get more opportunities to play your own game, you will not get more easy opportunities to score, you will not get more room to operate with, with any other player, ever. Any supporting player next to Steph plays the game on easy mode. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know with this.

But the Warriors are going out of their way to break their system to keep Wiggins involved and motivated. Not only should they not be doing that for any player, but Wiggins isn't even remotely good enough to even entertain the idea of straying from the system in the first place.

And it's much bigger than just hindering Poole's development too. It's affecting the whole damn offense. They've had to change Steph's minutes simply for Wiggins, and they've had to sacrifice ball movement for when he's leading the offense too. Look at what happened yesterday when Steph went to the bench and Wiggins took over - the ball stopped moving and the offense went straight into a hole, then Steph had to come back and rescue them. Poole doesn't need special treatment, he just needs a steady role where he can get his hands on the ball, because he's shown he can play within the system. His game has been shaped this way scrimmaging with the squad over the last couple of years. He makes quick decisions with the ball, and is great moving without it, Wiggins' style of play is the contrary to that, due to all the bad habits he's developed over the years.

It's painful watching this team because of how good they are, and how much better they could be if you subtract Wiggins from the equation.
 

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If that player is like Wiggins, yes.

But how many players that have been in the Warriors system since 2014 have needed the ball force-fed to them to keep them motivated?

Wiggins is one of a very few.

Nearly everyone that comes onto this team fits in seamlessly, gets their touches, and works together as one. That's why everyone works so damn hard on defense because they feel like they're a part of something, rather than just a sidepiece. That's why the whole egalitarian strength in numbers thing exists. Nobody is stepping on each other's toes trying to get touches because the ball moves and everyone touches it. It's why Steph is the easiest superstar in NBA history to play with. You will not get more opportunities to play your own game, you will not get more easy opportunities to score, you will not get more room to operate with, with any other player, ever. Any supporting player next to Steph plays the game on easy mode. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know with this.

But the Warriors are going out of their way to break their system to keep Wiggins involved and motivated. Not only should they not be doing that for any player, but Wiggins isn't even remotely good enough to even entertain the idea of straying from the system in the first place.

And it's much bigger than just hindering Poole's development too. It's affecting the whole damn offense. They've had to change Steph's minutes simply for Wiggins, and they've had to sacrifice ball movement for when he's leading the offense too. Look at what happened yesterday when Steph went to the bench and Wiggins took over - the ball stopped moving and the offense went straight into a hole, then Steph had to come back and rescue them. Poole doesn't need special treatment, he just needs a steady role where he can get his hands on the ball, because he's shown he can play within the system. His game has been shaped this way scrimmaging with the squad over the last couple of years. He makes quick decisions with the ball, and is great moving without it, Wiggins' style of play is the contrary to that, due to all the bad habits he's developed over the years.

It's painful watching this team because of how good they are, and how much better they could be if you subtract Wiggins from the equation.
Name the players we can realistically trade for
 
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Name the players we can realistically trade for
Any trade, within reason, is realistic.

It's all a matter of how much the Warriors are willing to give up to get a team to take on Wiggins, since it's unlikely that a team will just trade for him, straight up.
 

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Any trade, within reason, is realistic.

It's all a matter of how much the Warriors are willing to give up to get a team to take on Wiggins, since it's unlikely that a team will just trade for him, straight up.

This the last year on wigs deal… Dubs can just hold him until he fall off the books or use his contract and trade to a team looking to dumb salary…
 
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To swing it back into more positive talk:

Kuminga is looking like he'll be ready to handle starters minutes by the end of the season. He looked exceptional in the minutes he played against the Bulls. The motor, aggression, poise and the willingness to take the DeRozan assignment is what special players are made of. It'll be dope to see a lineup of Steph-GP2-Kuminga-Iggy-Dray for short runs - playmaking and defense in abundance.
 

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To swing it back into more positive talk:

Kuminga is looking like he'll be ready to handle starters minutes by the end of the season. He looked exceptional in the minutes he played against the Bulls. The motor, aggression, poise and the willingness to take the DeRozan assignment is what special players are made of. It'll be dope to see a lineup of Steph-GP2-Kuminga-Iggy-Dray for short runs - playmaking and defense in abundance.
I remember folks didn’t think it was possible to be in win now mode while developing rookies simultaneously. This coaching staff really is light years ahead:whew:
 
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