Its disgusting how SCARED Jay-Z and Big were during the EAST VS. WEST BEEF

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Dr Dre is more important to hip hop history than any of them 3 nikkas you named..

No he aint:comeon: Ghostwriters and ghostproducers
:beli: Attitudes like this is why homegrown NY rappers (like Caboose) are losing right now outside of open minded acts like the A$AP mob. Dudes out here acting like spoiled, rich, trust-fund babies still suckling the teat of Hov, Diddy and the legend Nas and still stuck on what used to be the order of hip-hop. Newsflash brehs; the game doesn't revolve around there anymore and nikkas are out here gettin' it everywhere, including in your city. Guys from other regions are trying to build something bigger but these guys still pointing at the Empire State building talmbout, "This used to be the tallest building in the world, you know :flabbynsick:".


Alot of y'alls acts gotta grow out of themselves forreal cuh, ol' "bring it back" ass nikkas :dead:. That's the reason NY didn't have any allies in the feud to begin with. It wasn't East vs. West, it was everybody vs. y'all :ufdup:



Get wit the times, breh :old:

A thread full of nikkas shytting on the NY and you pick the one nikka who responded back.:what:And NYC didn't need any allies :blessed:
 

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now as a west coaster i will agree with pac going at someone who had zero to do with it. i would never call him scared like you're doing. cause he wasnt scared. remembered he busted his gun at cops.

but it was obvious pac didnt realllly want it with the dudes who originally shot him up.


What do people think Against All Odds was though?He took out the pawns first,got his money right and was like "checkmate":pachaha:...or do people think he got killed on purpose so he wouldn't have to deal with them nikkas again:heh:...could he have just dissed them nikkas Henchman,Tut,Haitian without reprocussions? He said they name on wax,threatened revenge....gives off a vibe he wasn't scared of them nikkas to me....not sayin he shouldna been,but when your family tree is people who don't scare easy by the US government hunting them like dogs,what's a few gangsters:whew:...he definitly sounded prepared for whatever the outcome was and knew the possibilitys "probaly be murdered for the shyt that I said!"


That song is so tough man:whew:...dude was on a kamikaze mission and you still got us all 20 years later on here arguin about what he was thinking tryna break that shyt down rationally and phsycologically....when really it can't be done:russ:..when its not much rational about sumbody in that mindstate typically.
 

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Oh Yeaaahhh...:whew:

When I first heard this I was ready to call Suge and let him know Im ridin'..fukk New York. and Im from the East Coast. :pacspit:



and when ny nikkaz heard this shyt pac was already six feet.
Pac is one of my favorite mcs but i always laugh when he says westside. the only reason for all that was he almost got killed in ny. if wayne said fukk ny for a gun charge imagine how pac felt on attempted murder
 

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No he aint:comeon: Ghostwriters and ghostproducers


A thread full of nikkas shytting on the NY and you pick the one nikka who responded back.:what:And NYC didn't need any allies :blessed:
So Dr Dre isnt more important in to hip hop than Jay Z or Nas or Diddy?

lmao foh.
 

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:beli: Attitudes like this is why homegrown NY rappers (like Caboose) are losing right now outside of open minded acts like the A$AP mob. Dudes out here acting like spoiled, rich, trust-fund babies still suckling the teat of Hov, Diddy and the legend Nas and still stuck on what used to be the order of hip-hop. Newsflash brehs; the game doesn't revolve around there anymore and nikkas are out here gettin' it everywhere, including in your city. Guys from other regions are trying to build something bigger but these guys still pointing at the Empire State building talmbout, "This used to be the tallest building in the world, you know :flabbynsick:".


Alot of y'alls acts gotta grow out of themselves forreal cuh, ol' "bring it back" ass nikkas :dead:. That's the reason NY didn't have any allies in the feud to begin with. It wasn't East vs. West, it was everybody vs. y'all :ufdup:



Get wit the times, breh :old:

I was raised from East Coast rap, but this is the truth. Even the posters in here always reference PAST shyt that NY did, but never mention what happened in the last few years with the younger generation. That old status quo is dead.
 

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No. You think he is.
Dre was part of NWA. Without dre there is no Snoop, Eminem, 50 cent, or the game.
Without Dre, G funk sound does not blow up, The Chronic is never released.
There is no nate dogg. Need i go on?
 

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Dre was part of NWA. Without dre there is no Snoop, Eminem, 50 cent, or the game.
Without Dre, G funk sound does not blow up, The Chronic is never released.
There is no nate dogg. Need i go on?

No continue :beli:
 

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Los Facts:


NYers jimmy henchman, hatian jack, and king tut str8 put the paws on pac. instead of retaliation pac made records snitching on them:dwillhuh: (fact)

2 of the 3 moved to and Lived in Los Angeles, California after putting the paws on pac(fact) :mjpls:

jimmy and jack proceeded to continue to eat in the music industry on the west coast after giving pac that goon work and EVERYONE knew.(fact):mjpls:

both jimmy and jack LIVED in LA with no fux given about tupac,suge knight or death row and no one from Cali did shyt to either of them(fact):mjpls:

All 3 men have gone untouched for laying the paws on pac till this very day 10/16/2013 (fact):mjpls:

them nikkas from NY was so scared of "the west" they moved there:mjpls:

someone tell me any of these facts are lies:mjpls:
 
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Bullshyt. Its known that Pac wanted to go at Cube for not backing up the West Coast. Matter of fact, both WC and Mack 10 wanted to get involved but Cube said its not a good business move and not to get involved. After all the shyt happened, WC went on record to say eh was ready to ride with Pac and the West but Cube talked him and Mack 10 out of it...

But at the Farrakhan meeting it was Cube who was confronted by Fat Joe :sadbron:

Snoop and Mack 10 sitting there like :whew: and :leon:
 

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Big made a calculated choice not to make diss record on a mixtape but he was going to release it on his album. Lil Kim dissed Pac while he was alive and Big made her change her verse. Big was working on "Life After Death" all throughout the beef so he was going to retaliate but with Pac dying what would been the point of a diss record. Mobb and CNN were working on records at the time too. This myth that everyone was "Scared" is B.S. Big again made a personal choice not to make a diss record until his album dropped. Pac died, plans changed. But this song was recorded while Pac was alive:

 

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I'm a young nikka but I know what I'm talkin bout :troll: if Biggie and Jay Z went directly and Pac that's a big chance of their careers ending. "Maniacs put my name in raps/what part of the game is that/it's like they hustle backwards" Read between the lines

Dissing rappers by NAME was what you did back then:ufdup:

"And those that rushes my clutches get put on crutches
Get smoked like dutches from the master
Hate to blast ya, but I have ta, you see I smoke a lot
Your life is played out like Kwame, and them fukkin polka dots" - Big on "Unbelievable" from Ready To Die....his debut album in 1994


If you dont know who Kwame is, which you probably dont since you're a youngin, this was him:

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He was known for "polka-dots" and came out in 1989. After BIG dissed him, his rap career was basically ended, because the people were riding BIG so heavy at that time. Yall talk about "ETHER"? Kwame still talking about this as recent as 2011:russ:





1 line breh....name dropped.....career ended.



That's my GOAT Notorious B.I.G. aka Frank White:to:
 
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Mobb Deep wasn't scared. CNN wasn't scared. Prodigy and them went at the whole West Coast by they selves. Matter of fact. That is what started the Prodigy vs Jay-Z beef.

Mobb Deep and them nikkas went in with "LA LA" during the height of the Beef but after everything ended Jay-Z tried to act like he was riding? :why:

Plus, you're saying they were scared. Scared nikkas keep they mouth shut...not send subliminals.

Big had the Junior Mafia beggin to put out a diss track.

50 Cent aint have a team as strong as Murder Inc or Supreme team and 50 had the Supreme Team at his neck trying to kill him and he didn't send subliminals.
2pac had nikkas tryna kill him too and he didn't send subliminals he put Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchmen name out there and called them snitches (worst thing you can call a street nikka)...no subliminals.

I just can't agree with you homie...


That's why I could never respect Mobb...I hate subliminal disses.That shyt is p*ssy to me.nikka just say that it cotdamnit:damn:


It's like a nikka using his hand to pretend like he got gun underneath his shirt.Goofy shyt
 
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now as a west coaster i will agree with pac going at someone who had zero to do with it. i would never call him scared like you're doing. cause he wasnt scared. remembered he busted his gun at cops.

but it was obvious pac didnt realllly want it with the dudes who originally shot him up.


That's because he wasn't on their level yet.


Money & Power.


That's the only way to start a dialogue with kingpins.

If you have a nuke and the next nikka only has a couple of guns, he's going to have to retreat, or get blown the fukk up.

But if he has a nuke and you have a nuke, then you can meet at the conference table, and formulate a few stipulations.


That's why some of them same nikkaz couldn't fukk with 50...his money got crazy.Like Yayo said " 50 got ninja money"


But yeah, that's why Pac didn't go directly at them cats.They knew that.Napoleon from the Outlawz said he was there when nikka approached Pac with a message from Jimmy Henchmen telling Pac "You don't wanna go to war with me, you don't even have your money straight"


I think Pac going at Puff y and Big the way he did was only strategy.He knew they were Henchmen/Jacques bytches, so he slapped them around a lil bit.He wasn't trying to literally murder Big, just kill his "Big Poppa" image.By doing that, he'd indirectly fukk with Henchmen's money.Pac had already spoke out about "mafia nikkaz" having Bad Boy under extortion.He figured they were just scared lil bytches anyway.

Pac knew the only other nikka in the game who had a nuke strong enough to match Henchmen/Jacque/BMF back then was Suge Knight.That's why Pac singed with Deathrow IMO.He knew it was a shady label, but they had that nuke.


You give Pac another 2-3 years in the game, i have no doubt in my mind that he would've blown up to a level where he would've been able deal with them nikkaz.same as 50....if 50 could do it, so could Pac


nikkaz quick to glorify Henchmen/Jacque and them nikkaz when they're in cahoots with federal agents/snitches

And quick to diss a nikka who was brave enough to stand up to the corruption that was going on behind the scenes at the time.Pac wasn't the only rapper/entertainer that them nikkaz "disciplined"....he just wasn't afraid to fight back
 
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