Its Mid-2017, Is It Time To Abolish The Tipping Culture?

[Alpha Male]

These nikkas move 2 feet to make a call and get a fukking hot meal delivered right TO THEM and motherfukkers still complain about having to give 3 to 5.

i bet you they are mostly bernie supporters too.

 

[Pressure]

when waiters are given incentive you receive better service.

if you pay them a flat wage that means they have no incentive to go above and beyond, which means you don't receive the same service.

also waiting tables is a very demanding job, not everyone can do it well. it requires a lot of patience, memorization and multitasking. the only reason people apply is because they have the opportunity to make good money. if you make it less desirable to be a waiter you're going to see more unqualified people being given waitering jobs... i.e. the people you would never want serving you in the first place.

the moral of the story is don't be a cheap fukk. leave a tip for service.

Spot on.

I can always tell who has and who has not worked in the service industry based on these threads.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I don't find it really matters. If we abolished tipping the base price of stuff would go up to compensate anyway.

What tipping does is motivate servers to do a good job. It doesn't pay them more/less then they would get anyway unless they're just shytty at their job and consistently get low tips.

This is dumb if it we're really a solid motivator it would be used across the board. High end wait staff make a solid wage + tips, other more important service industries don't even take tips but are salaried. It's just a way to pay people more off the books.

 

[Pressure]

This is dumb if it we're really a solid motivator it would be used across the board. High end wait staff make a solid wage + tips, other more important service industries don't even take tips but are salaried. It's just a way to pay people more off the books.

In other jobs they're called bonuses and are paid by the employer. :BlackTrumpThought:

 

[AnonymityX1000]

In other jobs they're called bonuses and are paid by the employer. :BlackTrumpThought:

No doctors just make a lot of money for example. No tips/bonuses.

 

[Pressure]

No doctors just make a lot of money for example. No tips/bonuses.

Doctors, by trade and oath, should always do the best work.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Doctors, by trade and oath, should always do the best work.

So all waiters have to do is take an oath to get a salary? lol

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

delivery fees arent paid to the driver.
check your pizzahut reciept

Then neither is gas

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Doctors, by trade and oath, should always do the best work.

Every should or get fired.
Yes lives are at stake for doctors yes.
But tips shouldnt ensure a doing a good job, job security should

 

[re'up]

Another thing, I think says so much about "American" cultural values in in terms of inequality is how it's socially acceptable to NOT tip, or create a "Hunger Games" scenario for the server, "oh, no water refill, she's not getting a tip", I don't even pay attention to the service for the most part, and I'll tip the max or close, regardless. It's beneath me to try to assert "power" over someone less financially secure then me, I see these traits in friends, even women I've gone out with, and I'm less and less tolerant and more and more disgusted. A bunch of privileged yuppies feeling secure and self important when someone is fetching their drinks, making them feel powerful, even worse when the person used to be in the service industry, it's like self hate, and they are the most calculated and cruel with their behavior in many instances. "Well, I had to do the same thing".

 

[Scholar]

I understand it would be way better if companies paid a living wage so people wouldn't need tips. We don't live in that world currently though so i always try to tip well. If someone provides great service I'll drop the bills to let them know

 

[Pressure]

So all waiters have to do is take an oath to get a salary? lol

Actually, you initially made a comparison for the high pay of doctors and not having bonuses. Now you're attempting to say that the oath is why they merely have a salary. This isn't a like for like comparison, but I'm assuming you thought I wouldn't notice how you attempted to change the argument as to why doctors don't receive bonuses to why server's don't receive salary.

You want to try this again?

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I learned in college that if you tip the bartender well on the first drink or so, you might fukk around and notice your cup runneth over on the 3rd or 4th time that you are halfway through your drink...and you only paid for one drink.

If you don't tip well, don't make plans to return to an establishment or order delivery on a frequent basis. The staff might recognize you or your name.

 

[Pressure]

Every should or get fired.
Yes lives are at stake for doctors yes.
But tips shouldnt ensure a doing a good job, job security should

My water refill, how a server explains the food items, how they bus, whether they crumb, how they communicate with myself and others to increase my dining experience is not a life or death experience.

But rest assured, if servers are bad at their job they will be fired.

One thing people don't get that are against tipping is that your overall dining experience would change. You could no longer expect to have your best servers working on the busier shifts or sections if they made the same amount of money for all shifts and sections. You will see restaurants cutting more floor staff during your slower lunch and early dinner periods that would also lead to a worse overall experience. You'd likely see a higher barrier for entry. The flexibility that allows servers to work and raise their children would be heavily injured.

Just tip or eat at home. Seriously.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Actually, you initially made a comparison for the high pay of doctors and not having bonuses. Now you're attempting to say that the oath is why they merely have a salary. This isn't a like for like comparison, but I'm assuming you thought I wouldn't notice how you attempted to change the argument as to why doctors don't receive bonuses to why server's don't receive salary.

You want to try this again?

Dude, you said the difference was the oath not, me. And you brought up bonuses instead of tips, not me.
I'm saying if the tip is such an incentive why isn't it used more in other service industries like medicine? It would seem more importance would require more motivation not less. The incentive narrative for wait staff is bullshyt IMO. That's it.