Its Mid-2017, Is It Time To Abolish The Tipping Culture?

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Do you idiots even know any poor people????

Thats the problem with the left, they keep fighting on the behalf of others without even understanding their situation.
Democrats are SOO OUT OF TOUCH!!
I'm pretty sure alpha male isn't on the left. :mjlol:
 

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you acquire the services for those individuals under an entirely different set of conditions. you didn't ask for the nurse's services, but if you check into a hospital you're going to need a nurse. so a hospital needs nurses on staff.

when you dine out you are choosing to dine out and you are choosing to have someone serve on you hand and foot. a restaurant cannot guarantee a high level of service unless they have a motivated and qualified staff.

you won't have a motivated staff or a qualified staff at 8 bucks an hour.
Uh, you know people do choose the hospital/doctor they are going to have surgery at, have a baby in, do your physical therapy at, get a chronic condition treated at etc. How do those institutions guarantee good service if the nurse isn't getting a tip? And I'm not advocating they get tipped I'm advocating wait staff get a salary like nurses. It seems being a professional ___ who earns and honest wage is good enough for a myriad of service positions. Why isn't it good enough for waiters/waitresses?
 

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Well its usually the left who:
1) Force others to pay into something they dont want to.
2) Demonize them when in opposition.
3) Promote entitlement

I guess I do categorize it like that... I guess
Hrmm....

Allowing companies to pay their employers less in order to provide more jobs seems very conservative.
Allowing customers the freedom the pay (tip as they choose) regardless of the level of service sounds very libertarian.
Screaming Murrica and Go back to your country...isn't that entitlement?

:mjpls:

Anyway. do you have any data to support your initial position or are you mad that you found 5 friends to go out to dinner with and they hit your cheap ass with the autograt?
 

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Uh, you know people do choose the hospital/doctor they are going to have surgery at, have a baby in, do your physical therapy at, get a chronic condition treated at etc. How do those institutions guarantee good service if the nurse isn't getting a tip? And I'm not advocating they get tipped I'm advocating wait staff get a salary like nurses. It seems being a professional ___ who earns and honest wage is good enough for a myriad of service positions. Why isn't it good enough for waiters/waitresses?
How do you feel about Automatic 20% gratuity added on your food orders?

You're going to pay a lot more than you do now if servers were paid a high enough wage that you didn't need to tip. A perfect example are country clubs or private dinners where the cost of labor is included.
 

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Uh, you know people do choose the hospital/doctor they are going to have surgery at, have a baby in, do your physical therapy at, get a chronic condition treated at etc. How do those institutions guarantee good service if the nurse isn't getting a tip? And I'm not advocating they get tipped I'm advocating wait staff get a salary like nurses. It seems being a professional ___ who earns and honest wage is good enough for a myriad of service positions. Why isn't it good enough for waiters/waitresses?

in your opinion what would be a fair salary for a food server?
 

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restaurants have tried...it doesnt work.
Employees dont work as hard.
People dont order as much because of higher prices.

Service you get in America is head and shoulders above other countries.

It works in Australia and they have many world class restaurants.
 

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How do you feel about Automatic 20% gratuity added on your food orders?

You're going to pay a lot more than you do now if servers were paid a high enough wage that you didn't need to tip. A perfect example are country clubs or private dinners where the cost of labor is included.
Presently, with the 'shyt wage/work for tips' system we have I'm fine with it. I always pay 20% at least, if the service is shyt I still pay 15%.
Like I said items only need to go up like 10 - 15% to pay your staff a fair wage. It's really would be a wash if every one tipped 15%. But as we know some people don't even tip which is fukked up.
 

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in your opinion what would be a fair salary for a food server?
It depends on the establishment. It depends on the waiter/waitress. If you been a trusted waiter/waitress for the same establishment for years you should make more than someone just starting. If you work at Ruth Cris you should make more than someone at Applebees. Let's do a range. $25K - $65K for a full time employee working 35 + hours. Depending on seniority, expertise, establishment etc.
 

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It depends on the establishment. It depends on the waiter/waitress. If you been a trusted waiter/waitress for the same establishment for years you should make more than someone just starting. If you work at Ruth Cris you should make more than someone at Applebees. Let's do a range. $25K - $65K for a full time employee working 35 + hours. Depending on seniority, expertise, establishment etc.

i would rather pay the extra money directly to the server. better than having to pay more for the meal and get served by someone who has less incentive to give full effort.
 

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i would rather pay the extra money directly to the server. better than having to pay more for the meal and get served by someone who has less incentive to give full effort.
The entire idea of "I'll get more effort if I hang a tip over their head." is bullshyt. I'm sure you have gotten bad service from wait staff and received great service from a salaried employee.
 

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These nikkas move 2 feet to make a call and get a fukking hot meal delivered right TO THEM and motherfukkers still complain about having to give 3 to 5.
but that is built into the DELIVERY FEE. That convenience is not free. The client PAYS not to move.

Get this through your head. The beer you buy at the bar isn't $4 as advertised. It's $5 cause you need to tip the bartender. If you feel the extra dollar is too much, go to a gas station and buy a 40 for $2. But most of all

Shut the fukc up about this subject.
This is bullshyt.
1. You (typically) are NOT the business owner. How would he feel about you not serving people because they pay the item price and not subsidize him hustling you?

2. No, I'll buy the beer, pay my fee, and turn my attention away from the "my mean stares are a weapon" ass PEEON Bartender and back to whomever I choose to. fukk your extra dollar. U want it? It's in my ass you fukking fakkit!


#EUROPEINFLUENCEDGANG
#fukkATip
 
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but that is built into the DELIVERY FEE. That convenience is not free. The client PAYS not to move.


This is bullshyt.
1. You (typically) are NOT the business owner. How would he feel about you not serving people because they pay the item price and not subsidize him hustling you?

2. No, I'll buy the beer, pay my fee, and turn my attention away from the "my mean stares are a weapon" ass PEEON Bartender and back to whomever I choose to. fukk your extra dollar. U want it? It's in my ass you fukking fakkit!


#EUROPEINFLUENCEDGANG
#fukkATip
Don't hang out with this guy. :patrice:
Eurogang uncircumcised too. :dame:
 
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