It's real in these Ukrainian trenches... (NSFW)

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:russ: Let me engage you & poke holes in your exaggeration.

Funny how you claimed 500-0 when even official US figure put it at 200-300 pro-Syrian Government Forces killed.

Ok 300 to 0. Happy? :mjlol:
^^^The fact that they used all these assets against Syrian x Wagner forces gathering against ISIS & barely killed 50-60 people is an utter failure & a mere exaggerated flash in the pan.
Nope. We actually have an audio recording of a Wagner fighter describing themselves getting fukked up

So, one squadron f**** lost 200 people …right away, another one lost 10 people… and I don’t know about the third squadron but it got torn up pretty badly, too... So three squadrons took a beating… The Yankees attacked… first they blasted the f*** out of us by artillery and then they took four helicopters up and pushed us in a f*** merry-go-round with heavy caliber machine guns….They were all shelling the holy f*** out of it and our guys didn’t have anything besides the assault rifles


Everybody, you know, treats us like pieces of sh*** ... They beat our asses like we were little pieces of sh***... but our f*** government will go in reverse now and nobody will respond or anything and nobody will punish anyone for this







Also, you’ve made my point for me. The US doesn’t give a fukk how much it spends. It will drop a few mil wiping out a battalion of Russians and not even sweat the details. The next military spending bill gonna be greater than every country in the world combined. MF talking bout an L when your dead and we are not :heh:


Also, this is from the US:

“The Russian high command in Syria assured us it was not their people,” defence secretary Jim Mattis told senators in testimony last month. He said he directed Gen Joseph F Dunford Jr, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, “for the force, then, to be annihilated.”

^How would anyone with a brain call this a direct confrontation between US & Russia when the US got clearance from Russia before attacking them? If the US were that brave, it wouldn't have contacted Russia for clearance. And Russia has more than enough assets in Syria to neutralise any US attack on its regular forces.

So, no matter how you spin it - this wasn't a US vs Russia confrontation. It was Syria supported by private military vs US. But still an utter failure in context of the assets US deployed relative to the kills.
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America needs to stick to chasing weather balloons & leave complex military adventures to countries that actually win wars. America just shot down a $12 balloon with a $450k missile thus making it F-22's first kill. Then got so paranoid & started shooting down several $12 weather balloons whilst claiming they're UFOs. Imagine a country where people believe a jet that has a mach 2.5mach max speed can track & shoot down. hypersonic UFOs flying at a min speed of 5mach. Americans are so gullible & delusional. :troll:
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Read the link below to know no one is invincible (I was going to post the video but didn't cos it's too graphic):



“Yo Russia we got little green men coming over the hill, this you. :unimpressed:

“No comrade, we have no ‘Russians’ in the area, we promise :mjgrin:

“You sure because we about to light these nikkaz up, I just want you to know so you know you feel me :unimpressed:

“*whispering in Russian* um yes we can confirm there are no Russian military in the area :lupe:

Ok, just checking, ‘yo Phil hand me the joystick’ :mjlit:


:sadcam:

Highway of Death has to be one of the most exaggerated event in history since the number of bodies recovered wasn't even up to 100. How do you bomb a bunch of ragheads in over 1000 vehicles & manage to kill less than 100 people?

And you think the same people can flatten trenches & sophisticated fortifications? :russ:

Nikka what the fukk are you talking about. :mjlol: Nobody said anything about the highway if death, we are taking about 70 miles of trench lines Saddam built to stop the US invasion. The US paved over it like nothing. What the hell is an advanced trench and fortification. Do Russia have those? Where?
 
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Ok 300 to 0. Happy? :mjlol:

Nope. We actually have an audio recording of a Wagner fighter describing themselves getting fukked up

So, one squadron f**** lost 200 people …right away, another one lost 10 people… and I don’t know about the third squadron but it got torn up pretty badly, too... So three squadrons took a beating… The Yankees attacked… first they blasted the f*** out of us by artillery and then they took four helicopters up and pushed us in a f*** merry-go-round with heavy caliber machine guns….They were all shelling the holy f*** out of it and our guys didn’t have anything besides the assault rifles


Everybody, you know, treats us like pieces of sh*** ... They beat our asses like we were little pieces of sh***... but our f*** government will go in reverse now and nobody will respond or anything and nobody will punish anyone for this







Also, you’ve made my point for me. The US doesn’t give a fukk how much it spends. It will drop a few mil wiping out a battalion of Russians and not even sweat the details. The next military spending bill gonna be greater than every country in the world combined. MF talking bout an L when your dead and we are not :heh:





“Yo Russia we got little green men coming over the hill, this you. :unimpressed:

“No comrade, we have no ‘Russians’ in the area, we promise :mjgrin:

“You sure because we about to light these nikkaz up, I just want you to know so you know you feel me :unimpressed:

“*whispering in Russian* um yes we can confirm there are no Russian military in the area :lupe:

Ok, just checking, ‘yo Phil hand me the joystick’ :mjlit:


:sadcam:
Audio? :russ:


The audio is as real as the WMD in Iraq. Let's act like we haven't seen a lot of these fugazi audio recordings in Ukraine & like almost half of CIA isn't bilingual & they don't speak both English & Russian fluently.

I see you glossed over US getting clearance from the Russian command before attacking.:lupe:

You also glossed over the fact that the US deployed all its best assets against forces that weren't equipped for it since they were gathering to attack ISIS but ended up inflicting minimal damage. :patrice:

Anyway, you can pout & beat ya chest from now till eternity but it doesn't negate the fact that you can't win a war from the air & against formidable military with sophisticated/complex AD & SAMs - you'd still have to throw bodies in trenches & fight for every inch.


Also, don't ignore the link in my previous post - read it to rid yourself off your delusional trait. No army is invincible.

Done here.
 

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:russ: It’s disgraceful that you lot are still celebrating this utter failure.

Honestly, a lot of you Americans are delusional & this is as disgraceful as the Americans who act like they invented the English language whilst mocking native speakers in England.

You attacked a bunch of Wagner & Syrian soldiers who’re on foot with all your might after getting clearance from Russia that there are no Russian troops there. And rather than see it as a routine exercise - a lot of you have been gloating about it with exaggeration for years now like it was actually a US vs Russia confrontation. We all know it wasn’t & the US got clearance from Russia before it attacked them to protect Islamists.

Don’t let me post a video of US Elite Navy Seals getting wrecked by a handful of Taliban tribal fighters. Even the chinook sent to rescue them that was occupied by Navy Seals & Rangers was shot down by the Taliban with RPG.

American invincibility is built on exaggerating bs stories like the Syrian one. I know British vets that fought alongside Americans in Iraq & Afghanistan & they all say Americans are unprofessional brutes that won’t be able to hack it against formidable forces.

Not holding brief for Russia here but if you want to make an argument - reference a direct confrontation between US vs Russia regular forces - not US bombing Wagner & Syrians after getting clearance from Russian command that there are no Russian forces there. Even the number of casualties is exaggerated. Also, I don’t know how Russia get into this.
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Man's gonna come back with some ChatGPT generated babble to try and refute this :russ:
Dude is letting his desire for a challenge to US hegemony make him a bit delusional. Even Russian military higher ups admit they are suffering heavily and it's based on logistical and organizational issues inherent in the Russian military. Until Russia fixes those things, they will not be able to compete on the peer level with the United States. This is a cultural and organizational problem in Russia. They were supposed to take Bakhmut a week or two ago and even the west was convinced they will take it. Instead they actually loss some territory to the Ukrainians recently. They may still take it but it's a phyrric victory. The Ukrainians realized back in 2014 that the old Soviet top heavy organizational structure of their military was shytty and got trained in US style military structures and this is why Russia is having a hard time right now. Russians haven't evolved at all in this area and it's fukking them.

Obviously the dude isnt American and I actually get it as far as how he feels as there are major issues with how the west deals with the world. But what isn't talked about enough about this whole event, it's not even about the soldiers on the ground. This is an ideological war being waged right now. Putin views the loss of the territories after the fall of the USSR as shameful. It's a shame he wants to correct and some the philosophical underpinnings driving him are autocratic and ironically, given their history, embracing fascist ideals to achieve it. I'm not going to go into it too much but Russia has its own neonazi divisions and actually work with western fascists and neonazis as they have a common goal of toppling the current western liberal world order. They much prefer a world where you can ethnically cleanse undesirables instead of having other countries bytch at you about genocide and human rights.

I rather Ukrainians fight these dudes because at some point once Ukraine is taken care of, other former Soviet territories are in play for them, including current NATO members which means then we will be pulled into it. If Russia is successful, in a few years your neighbors and friends will be sent to fight them instead. If you think I'm exaggerating, then look up what is happening in Moldova which is to the west of Ukraine. They are currently battling Russian attempts of overthrowing their government. Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Finland, Romania, and others are also dealing with constant influence campaigns from Russian to undermined them. Even Germany is dealing with their government and intelligence services being filled with a ton of Russia spies. They just sentenced a dude from Britain to 13 years because he was spying for the Russians at a German embassy. This tells you the end goal isn't just Ukraine. I'm not looking forward to go fight some Russians in a trench any time soon
 
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To add above, here are some of the far right/fascist groups from Russia currently operating in the Ukraine and are ideologically aligned with the Russia government

Check out the listed "allies", particular those in the US

Founding members are proud and open Neonazis. They don't hide it. It's even hinted to in the name (reference to Richard Wagner)

Here is a photo from the above group. Try and point out all the Nazi references in this one photo. There are at least 4
  • On the truck is the number 88 with an arrow pointing up representing Hiel Hitler
  • Dude with red patch is two Z perpendicularly crossed to look like a swastika
  • Dude with the yellow patch has a variation of the black sun symbol which is popular with fascists and neo Nazis
  • The lighting bolt SS in the text under logo on the bottom left.

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How would anyone with a brain call this a direct confrontation between US & Russia when the US got clearance from Russia before attacking them? If the US were that brave, it wouldn't have contacted Russia for clearance. And Russia has more than enough assets in Syria to neutralise any US attack on its regular forces.
US forces fired. Russians died. How else would you describe it? :skip:

So, no matter how you spin it - this wasn't a US vs Russia confrontation. It was Syria supported by private military vs US. But still an utter failure in context of the assets US deployed relative to the kills.
US forces fired. Russians died. How else would you describe it? :skip:
Ruskies got wiped the fukk out.

“Yo Russia we got little green men coming over the hill, this you. :unimpressed:

“No comrade, we have no ‘Russians’ in the area, we promise :mjgrin:

“You sure because we about to light these nikkaz up, I just want you to know so you know you feel me :unimpressed:

“*whispering in Russian* um yes we can confirm there are no Russian military in the area :lupe:

Ok, just checking, ‘yo Phil hand me the joystick’ :mjlit:


:sadcam:
Pretty much.

I see you glossed over US getting clearance from the Russian command before attacking.:lupe:
He addressed it directly in the quote above this one.

You also glossed over the fact that the US deployed all its best assets against forces that weren't equipped for it since they were gathering to attack ISIS but ended up inflicting minimal damage. :patrice:
Are you actually trying to clown the US military for having amazing gear? :skip:
Minimal damage? :skip:

@Bonk, you might be retarded. :skip:

Dude is letting his desire for a challenge to US hegemony make him a bit delusional.

look up what is happening in Moldova which is to the west of Ukraine. They are currently battling Russian attempts of overthrowing their government. Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Finland, Romania, and others are also dealing with constant influence campaigns from Russian to undermined them. Even Germany is dealing with their government and intelligence services being filled with a ton of Russia spies.
This has been a huge problem all over Europe for decades. It's like walking pneumonia.
 

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US forces fired. Russians died. How else would you describe it? :skip:


US forces fired. Russians died. How else would you describe it? :skip:
Ruskies got wiped the fukk out.


Pretty much.


He addressed it directly in the quote above this one.


Are you actually trying to clown the US military for having amazing gear? :skip:
Minimal damage? :skip:

@Bonk, you might be retarded. :skip:




This has been a huge problem all over Europe for decades. It's like walking pneumonia.

You’re a spastic jobless loner with extremely low IQ. Stop quoting me, you gormless pillock.

You need therapy & friends - not giving opinions on topics too advanced for what your brain cells can muster.
 

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But this isn’t primarily about Ukraine.

This is about a delusional poster who thinks American can win a war against a peer or near-peer from the air & that trench warfare is obsolete.

Vietnam wasn’t even a near-peer & the US lost almost 10,000 aircrafts there. The US still uses the B52 bomber & it lost about 16 (US sources) or 54 (Vietnam sources) B52 bombers in Vietnam to SAM. So, how is the same bomber going to survive against modern SAMs?

Poking holes in lunacy & grandiose delusions whenever I feel like it, is my service to humanity. I don’t really care about either side albeit I’m against global domination by one country.
 
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Vietnam wasn’t even a near-peer & the US lost almost 10,000 aircrafts there.
Thousands of Russian technical advisers assisted North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War.

By the early 1960s, North Vietnam also had pilots training on the MiG-17 in China—with Chinese pilots flying and fighting in North Vietnamese airspace at the beginning of the war. Records indicate that the first air-to-air kills by MiGs were credited to Chinese pilots.

The US was not just fighting North Vietnam.

The US still uses the B2-bomber & it lost about 16 (US sources) or 54 (Vietnam sources) B-2 bombers in Vietnam to SAM. So, how is the same bomber going to survive against modern SAMs?

The first B-2 bomber took flight in 1989... :skip:

Poking holes in lunacy & grandiose delusions whenever I feel like it, is my service to humanity.

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I think you were thinking about the B-52, block head.

The US Air Force’s aging B-52 Stratofortress bombers will receive a major upgrade to continue executing missions until at least 2050.

Yeah, the US has been maintaining and upgrading the flying fortress because it's a dope platform to build off of. Why not keep using it? And as to being shot down, I'm pretty sure that the US would wipe out any threats before sending them in because 'Murrica.
 
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