"Ive been signed to Interscope since 2011"

[keond]

The only place ive ever heard the term "industry plant" is the coli. The average nikka with a life dont give a fukk. Do it jam? ......is all most have time to give a fukk about. Its all marketing at the end of the day.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

The only place ive ever heard the term "industry plant" is the coli.

thats cuz you dont go nowhere.

 

[duncanthetall]

The Booth got some real simple low IQ mothafukkas.

 

[Greenstrings]

lol. i remember the coronation.
theres no need to "retroactively emphasize" anything. where the hell have you been the past couple of years? if you havnt seen these dudes riding for TDE on the internet off the strength of them being duped into thinking that it was some sort of grassroots indie movement, then youre just lost in the sauce and not cognizant. the funny thing is, THEYRE STILL DOING IT by constantly comparing him to drake, not knowing that theyre really just 2 peas in a pod. and look at all the stuff that they say in these types of threads. theyre still convinced that its real. thats their whole selling point, and theyre still using it. i mean, cmon man. just look at the type of fans that they attract. chit is embarrassing.

You're trying to frame their success in terms of something that was very much peripheral to it which is dishonest, unless you're trying to tell me that when his buzz was growing the majority of what people had to say revolved around his 'indieness' That is not the case and you said it yourself, it has everything to do with the quality of the music.. In the midst of all the cynical marketing and industry machinations people want to hear music and artists fail or succeed on the basis of their appeal in that regard.

Yes some people were dumb enough to mistake the bohemian image TDE cultivated for "an indie movement" but you'd have to be equally dumb to even humour them and you'd have to be even dumber to think that was at the centre of what was going on.

Yet you're trying to tell me that if I haven't seen many people spouting shyt about grassroots indie movement that's my problem and I'm non cognizant and lost in the sauce? If in all this that's the shyt that stands out to you then that really is your problem.

Drake is half white, Jewish, from Toronto, caters to a largely female audience and is fixated on R&B. Kendrick is black, was born in Compton and raps about his life there. If you think the most pertinent point of comparison people make between those two relates to promo and indie aesthetics then you're delusional.

If the crux of your argument boils down to "fools on the internet said such an such", then the chances are you're fixated on the wrong thing.

no, the rapper cosigns aren't exactly whats under the microscope here. its just another cog in the machine. i mean, golly-gee-willickers, how hard is it for some of you to understand? no wonder these labels take advantage of yall. i cant even blame them to an extent. chit is like taking candy from a baby.

Then what exactly is the issue here? Anybody that knew the extent of the Dre cosign and saw Kendrick's buzz growing should have been able to put two and two together. The specifics of when a deal was cut is irrelevant. Once it was clear that the potential was there it became an inevitability. We know how Dre has operated with new artists in the past and Kendrick hadn't done or said anything to imply that he wasn't amenable to signing with a major, so who was deceived in all this? Ya'll are trying to make this out to be far more than what it actually is.

 

[Mac Casper]

Damn phonies, I'm not gonna be part of your system

*grabs CD*

I took it and threw it on the ground !

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

The only place ive ever heard the term "industry plant" is the coli. The average nikka with a life dont give a fukk. Do it jam? ......is all most have time to give a fukk about. Its all marketing at the end of the day.

The fukk? :thehell:

nikkas in the streets argue all day about rappers and which one is real and which one ain't. nikkas chill at barbershops and argue about who realer, Gucci or Jeezy. Gucci or Gotti. Boosie or Plies (back when both was hot). It ain't about indie for them, it's about whether or not the nikkas they listen to is as real as they say.

So yes, folks in the streets do care if an artist has a real homegrown movement and has the "streets" on lock. They just don't say "industry plant" like folks on the internet do.

 

[CrossBones]

bu bu but ... theres no such thing!

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I fukk with Black Hippy but there not popping like that out here which is kind of a surprise

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

In reality this is good for actual indie groups and artist to know that you can be signed and properly marketed if you have the buzz

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

man, after all these years, i aint seen a real grassroots movement come thru the blog system yet.

all this chit is corrupt. and they pulling the whooly over people's heads.

Currensy?

And yes, some of these guys are astroturf'd. I don't remember people from New York talking about ASAP Rocky or seeing him before the blogs picked him up. However I honestly don't care much because I like some of his music

 

[Ronnie Lott]

If the music is dope, then I'm fuccin with it. End of story. I don't give a shyt about an idustry plant or not.

 

[CrimsonTider]

If the music is dope, them I'm fuccin with it. End of story. I don't give a shyt about an idustry plant or not.

You may not,but that is the point of the thread.

Alot of these nikkas get the backing of the hipster, white anti YMCB crowd by playing up the fact their movement is independant.

 

[keond]

thats cuz you dont go nowhere.

Says the nikka with 3000 posts....

SO where do u go that hear the term industry plant? Most nikkas offline dont give a fukk.

 

[Loud Still Coolin]

i knew it ........

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

These "I don't care as long as the music is good" people are the part of the reason that there will never be a truly successful independent scene anymore.

But these days, I guess people don't care if everything is all mainstream as long as they like it. That's hip-hop for you though.