"I've Given Up On Believing Black People Can Fix Their Problems" Dr. Claud Anderson

[Skrilla]

Brehs....i was thinking about this shyt earlier today. If you don't like brutal honesty and rawness don't even continue reading this post because im not gonna beat around the bush and shyt.

There are certain members on here who are aware of the position AAs are in, but i'd say the majority if not all of the cats i know or encounter think having a job working for a non black person is enough. Some of yall will think i'm lying but THE ONLY BLACK MEN I ENCOUNTER WHO ARE TRULY AWARE OF AAs ECONOMIC CONDITION ARE ON THE COLI and even on here there's a lot like the cats i've known offline.

"What yall talking about? I got a job"

Why do most of us think that just having a job working for white ppl is all it takes??

Why do so many of us BRAG about working for other races, especially white ppl?

And many of our ppl who become well-off move to a "good" neighborhood around a bunch of white ppl and don't even attempt to start some sort of business ANYWHERE for black ppl.

Tell me i'm lying.

nikkas get their piece of the pie and are satisfied. nikkas just want to be viewed as "that nikka" who's balling. fukk the community.

And this individualism does absolutely nothing for the collective.

Others operate with more of a collective mindset. That's why they see practicing group economics as something natural/normal.

A group needs A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. When the wealthiest and even just 'moderately successful' ppl of your group are just glad to have a seat/position at another group's table (neighborhood, job, etc) instead of actually wanting to get together with ppl who look like them and build, these are the results.

How many of us brag about working in some white mothafukkas' business?

I can't remember the last time i actually heard a nikka bragging about his OWN business.

A LOT OF BLACK PPL AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF OUR TRUE ECONOMIC POSITION BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DISILLUSIONED INTO BELIEVING IN A FALSE SENSE OF 'EQUALITY'. How is it 'equal' that all the strong majority of these bosses are white/non black and you don't own anything? But you got that 'job' though so i guess thats all that matters

 

[VegasCAC]

Fantasy land.. when it comes to economics theres no place for morals or feelings. You may feel that white people 'have' to fix the issue, in reality as a collective they won't. Every race looks out for their own people first.. as a collective white people are not gonna fix the very same thing that puts their people on before anyone else.

It may be fixed one day but it wont be white people willingly deciding to fix it

I'm not saying all white people are going to willingly decide to fix it as a whole. Like any other change historically, there needs to be a widespread social movement, appeal to the otherwise indifferent, and pressure on the federal government with specific legal and policy goals to benefit black people.

You'd be surprised how many white racists in 2016 became that way not because of bigotry, but because of ignorance. They never learned about structural inequality in college and have whitewashed understandings of history. Education of white people as well as black and brown people on white supremacy is the foremost way to sow the seeds of change. Without knowledge there is no action.

That's why I do my best in my private life to bring uncomfortable realities to white people and will educate my children on these things. Our ideologies and ways of thinking are the sum of our environment and life experiences. More white people need to have life experiences where they are confronted on the systems that privilege them early on in their intellectual development. Education is key.

White supremacy has put black people in a space where fixing all of their oppression-based problems by themselves is essentially untenable and unrealistic economically. Does pressing for meaningful and lasting change require black folks' support? Absolutely. Does it also require concessions from the predominant demographic group that controls the vast majority of political power and wealth in this country? Yes. There's no way around it, white people need to be involved in the process.

 

[BrandonBanks]

Brehs....i was thinking about this shyt earlier today. If you don't like brutal honesty and rawness don't even continue reading this post because im not gonna beat around the bush and shyt.

There are certain members on here who are aware of the position AAs are in, but i'd say the majority if not all of the cats i know or encounter think having a job working for a non black person is enough. Some of yall will think i'm lying but THE ONLY BLACK MEN I ENCOUNTER WHO ARE TRULY AWARE OF AAs ECONOMIC CONDITION ARE ON THE COLI and even on here there's a lot like the cats i've known offline.

"What yall talking about? I got a job"

Why do most of us think that just having a job working for white ppl is all it takes??

Why do so many of us BRAG about working for other races, especially white ppl?

And many of our ppl who become well-off move to a "good" neighborhood around a bunch of white ppl and don't even attempt to start some sort of business ANYWHERE for black ppl.

Tell me i'm lying.

Nikkas get their piece of the pie and are satisfied. Nikkas just want to be viewed as "that nikka" who's balling. Fukk the community.

And this individualism does absolutely nothing for the collective.

Others operate with more of a collective mindset. That's why they see practicing group economics as something natural/normal.

A group needs A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. When the wealthiest and even just 'moderately successful' ppl of your group are just glad to have a seat/position at another group's table (neighborhood, job, etc) instead of actually wanting to get together with ppl who look like them and build, these are the results.

How many of us brag about working in some white mothafukkas' business?

I can't remember the last time i actually heard a nikka bragging about his OWN business.

A LOT OF BLACK PPL AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF OUR TRUE ECONOMIC POSITION BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DISILLUSIONED INTO BELIEVING IN A FALSE SENSE OF 'EQUALITY'. How is it 'equal' that all the strong majority of these bosses are white/non black and you don't own anything? But you got that 'job' though so i guess thats all that matters

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Reading this thread, it's clear that most of us wasn't as "down for the cause" as we claim and portrayed ourselves as

I respect Dr. Anderson and have donated money to him, but I strongly disagree with him that all hope is lost

 

[VegasCAC]

White supremacy is not a problem for white people, it's a privilege, so why would they fix something that give them so many advantages over us. Black people need to embrace capitalism and evil mindset like the rest of the world.

People in our society generally acknowledge the basic tenets of equality and justice as desirable. If they can be made to understand as a whole the steps needed to make true equality and justice for black people as a reality, enough white people will be down for a change.

The problem with structural privilege in our society is that it is unconscious. Most white people don't even think of themselves as privileged. Enlightenment and movement of the Overton window towards justice through a progressive political platform is important.

There are no easy solutions.

 

[BeeCityRoller]

The average black person thinks they are within arms reach of the average white person just because they work in the same office and live in the same neighborhood as some of them. Claude Anderson has been giving us the ultimatum for years, its the end of the road now.

Not every black person will perish but if us young black folks don't make the right individual moves now, prepare to work yourself to the bone in the upcoming poor-working class until the day you die. Saving the entire community isn't realistic anymore.

Because the vast majority of our community is warped, even on this forum. More concerned about how a Mexican is going to "take their job" or a black man/woman they don't even know dating outside of their race.

My advice to all the other young black people out here, focus on building your financial, emotional, physical, and spiritual (even if non-religious) fitness. Thats whats really going to matter for us in these coming decades; it ain't gonna be pretty.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

yeah early 2000. the black city council and the mayor, at first they co-sign him, pledge 30 million to the "African town"(black business district) but the Mexicans, arabs, jews, Chinese came together with some cac female and black female city counsel to stop it and basically saying its reverse discrimination, he playing the "Race card"

Pressure weakens Detroit's plan for Black business district

I think read somewhere that bytch died a year later from kidney cancer after her efforts to stop "reverse racism"

What wasn't followed up, has always been my issue with this situation

What was the backup plan, if the first attempt to push this legislation through failed?
Where was the followup pressure from the black media outlets?
Where were the Black folks with money and influence that live in and around the midwest?
How did the community leaders encouraged their members to vote the following election?
How much money did the community donate to orgs/individuals that were fighting to push this plan through?

Nothing comes easier than excuses to justify why I can't/couldn't/didn't do something

 

[Dzali OG]

Listened to this yesterday...

It's like I've been saying, Claud and all the other sensible black advisors have it wrong. Economics will do nothing for black people in this system of white supremacy. We don't own the resources! The best we can do is rent.

We're in a prison society, with prison rules. We know what needs to be done, we all do. Most of us are too afraid to admit it though.

In prison once you've been raped...which is what black men have been...there's only one way to get your respect back. You can't just get your commissary (economics) up. That man's dikk been in your ass! You can't floss around like, "I got money now...fukk with me!" The man who raped you has more money, violated you, and is in the cut like .

You have to severely beat or kill the guy. It's what the black race has to do with the white race. We can beat round the bush all we want. Be cowardly all we want. Until we get some get back our mentality and rep will be damaged.

Do we not behave like men who have been molested and raped? The behavior you see portrayed portrayed of black people...that's a rape victim fighting demons.

 

[Jean Jacket]

Detroit ain't the end all.

Claude got like this a couple of years ago after his seafood enterprise didn'tll lift off in Maryland.

Black as a brand needs to be built on a grassroots foundation with guerilla tactics. (Webuyblack.com) Dr. Claude is stuck in a brick and mortar paradigm, when the future is through technology, the web and social activism/business rallies.

It's too easy to screw him over if he's throwing his eggs in a basket in a glass house.

 

[J-Nice]

People talking about "solutions" but can't even agree on the problems we face. Despite Dr Anderson having some good solutions (I've read and studied his books) , there isn't a one size fits all solution that is going to solve our problems. I don't have all the answers ( no one does), but I for damn sure ain't giving up on my community. I'm constantly working with like minded folk and helping people whenever I can. The moment you lose faith in people is the moment you lose faith in yaself. Just my two pennies.

 

[Skrilla]

Im saying...how the fukk can we progress as a ppl if the majority of those who become extremely successful look down on all blacks who have less money? And want to immediately move to where a bunch of white ppl are (who often don't even want us there), don't want to create more things specifically for black ppl (businesses, schools), etc

We need more ownership. And we need to practice group economics

Not all this bragging about what we got from a white person (a "good" position in their company, living in their neighborhoods, buying their brands of clothing all the time etc)

From my experiences, what a lot of us even truly realize is that we go through non-blacks for ALL our goods and services. This applies to all classes of black americans. I hate when some ppl try to make it seem like this doesn't apply to above-average earning black ppl as well. Black americans as a collective have to go through non blacks for all our goods and services, regardless of your income level.

But there's always a nikka who pops up saying, "Nuh uh, not my uncle/cousin/etc, he has a good job, he ain't broke etc"



Our neighborhoods are being gentrified by immigrants.

The majority of us buy from non-blacks, and don't produce anything of importance. Others do not need/rely on us for goods and services. We're dependent on others for jobs, goods, etc

Many blacks don't even fully realize this, because they tend to view themselves as individuals instead of viewing ourselves as a collective. So since they individually have a job working for non blacks, they don't see a problem.

AAs say, "well i got a good job from my white boss, a nice car, i live in a nice house around a bunch of white ppl so idk what these nikkas talking about etc" Always thinking as an individual and fukk everybody else. The truth is, regardless of socioeconomic status, the majority of us work for white people, and give our money to Arabs, Asians and whites. Our teachers are primarily white, our doctors are primarily East Indian, white, Asian, food supplied/provided by whites, Arabs, Asians and Hispanics, etc, jobs supplied by whites, Jews, etc.

Yes even your uncle/cousin etc with the "good job". What does he own/control?

If your group does't own or control resources then you rely on other groups for them and that's where we are now..no one relies on us for jobs, or resources, we are basically at the mercy of other races because we don't own or control anything. But u can't tell some nikkas that even though it's blatantly obvious...they will get angry and argue with you and even call you a c00n...but it's the facts, no one relies on us for anything, we are too dependent on other races and refuse to work together as a group to become stronger as a collective.

Look at all the other minorities in this country and they all seem to be playing on a level playing field among each other. They all have a better sense of community and group economics that we barely practice. How can we progress as a people if those of us who have look down on those of us who don't?

 

[Tom Foolery]

It's not over but the odds are slim.

To sum it up, too many black people have bad habits and a poor state of mind to really change. We need to cut the fat, throw some weight overboard. Not everyone can be saved or even should be saved.

 

[Jean Jacket]

Detroit ain't the end all.

Claude got like this a couple of years ago after his seafood enterprise didn'tll lift off in Maryland.

Black as a brand needs to be built on a grassroots foundation with guerilla tactics. (Webuyblack.com) Dr. Claude is stuck in a brick and mortar paradigm, when the future is through technology, the web and social activism/business rallies.

It's too easy to screw him over if he's throwing his eggs in a basket in a glass house.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'm still optimistic brehs

 

[director_of_bands]

empire getting a 2nd season and the nae nae song made me realize its over