Albums J. Cole - 4 Your Eyez Only (Discussion Thread)

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I always have issues with this statement. because if I look hard enough I can find the good in anything so... If I have to keep listening to this to change my opinion how do I know how I truly feel? This album didn't really do it for me but I know if I keep listening something will "grow on me"

All due respect, that's stupid logic


If you really going through music like it's disposable, skimming through shyt as opposed to sitting through it, I can't respect any of your opinions. Straight up
 

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Welcome to the Coli. Where J. Cole sucks but Lloyd Banks is the greatest ever:troll:
 

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So like everyone else, I was surprised one day last week when J. Cole dropped a doc and 2 vids with news of a new LP. The doc was straight but it had some good studio sessions musically. The 2 new songs/vids were flames. Everything we love about Cole. I started wondering...is he awoke? Is this the Cole weve been waiting for?

Then I read the 2 new songs weren't on the album. And the wool fell slowly from my eyes.

I downloaded the album this morning, and listened to it from front to back and couldn't have been more disappointed. There isn't a song on the album that's better than false prophets or everybody dies. Best song is Immortal imo. But nothing stands out to me. I felt the same way about his last album, the one everybody seemed to go crazy for. I'm not seeing Cole getting better. I feel musically hes been linear and settling into that Talib Kweli role.

Id give this new album 3 mics.
I went into a media blackout for this project. I didn't even listen to the 2 songs he released last week, and I had no idea they weren't on the album, until I actually listened to the album. I'm a Cole fan, been rocking with him since The Warm Up HARD, put a lot of people I know in real life onto his music. It's wild to see how his career has literally "blown up" (remember how many songs/references he used to make about making it, lol) over the years. His loyal fanbase/stans are down for him no matter what. And he's earned that because of how he's navigated the industry... his marketing team knows his audience and he knows how to energize them. Me on the other hand? I wasn't going to buy into the hype. I didn't listen to the songs, I didn't watch the documentary, I'm not dumb... I said I'll just wait for the music in it's entirety and make my own unbiased opinion on the album

So with that said, I thought FHD was like a 6 out of 10. People hyped it, people called it a classic, people always propping it up because it went 2X Plat without any features, and you know the rest.... when really, it wasn't even better than Born Sinner. You can break down both albums, and Born Sinner is more interesting, and has far more variety to the records on it.

I listened to this new album late last night. Maybe I was a bit tired, but on my first listen I was literally falling asleep. When the 1st song came on, it was funny because my wife was sitting next to me as it played and the first thing she said was, "This nikka needs to start getting some vocalists to sing some of these parts"... One of my main complaints about FHD was the singing Cole did all over the album, so when this intro cuts on and he's continuing that I was like "fukk here we go again". It's a decent intro, and I appreciated it more today when I played it. But initially I was like more struggle vocals incoming here.

The standouts for me are Immortal, Neighbors and Folding Clothes. I like the She's Mine joints too. They kind of reminded me of an Andre 3K kind of vibe. The last song is good too. Everything else for the most part is typical more of the same Cole. I'll admit, Cole's lyrics are better on here than they were on FHD. FHD lyrically wasn't impressive, he's saying much more on this new album... and not sugar coding it with any 'but's' or 'just playing'.

He's showing minor growth on here, but nothing major like you said. It's like this dude is trying to be so 'REAL' with his music that he doesn't even know how to have fun with it anymore. Still don't know what rating I'll give it, but I think I'm feeling this more than FHD which I think is vastly overrated. This new joint shyts on that album in terms of subject matter, and doesn't have anything as corny as Wet Dreamz on it. People might bring up Folding Clothes, but trust that's going to be a hit and it's a dope grown man/simp record whether you want to admit to it or not. The ladies are going to LOVE that song.
 

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I went into a media blackout for this project. I didn't even listen to the 2 songs he released last week, and I had no idea they weren't on the album, until I actually listened to the album. I'm a Cole fan, been rocking with him since The Warm Up HARD, put a lot of people I know in real life onto his music. It's wild to see how his career has literally "blown up" (remember how many songs/references he used to make about making it, lol) over the years. His loyal fanbase/stans are down for him no matter what. And he's earned that because of how he's navigated the industry... his marketing team knows his audience and he knows how to energize them. Me on the other hand? I wasn't going to buy into the hype. I didn't listen to the songs, I didn't watch the documentary, I'm not dumb... I said I'll just wait for the music in it's entirety and make my own unbiased opinion on the album

So with that said, I thought FHD was like a 6 out of 10. People hyped it, people called it a classic, people always propping it up because it went 2X Plat without any features, and you know the rest.... when really, it wasn't even better than Born Sinner. You can break down both albums, and Born Sinner is more interesting, and has far more variety to the records on it.

I listened to this new album late last night. Maybe I was a bit tired, but on my first listen I was literally falling asleep. When the 1st song came on, it was funny because my wife was sitting next to me as it played and the first thing she said was, "This nikka needs to start getting some vocalists to sing some of these parts"... One of my main complaints about FHD was the singing Cole did all over the album, so when this intro cuts on and he's continuing that I was like "fukk here we go again". It's a decent intro, and I appreciated it more today when I played it. But initially I was like more struggle vocals incoming here.

The standouts for me are Immortal, Neighbors and Folding Clothes. I like the She's Mine joints too. They kind of reminded me of an Andre 3K kind of vibe. The last song is good too. Everything else for the most part is typical more of the same Cole. I'll admit, Cole's lyrics are better on here than they were on FHD. FHD lyrically wasn't impressive, he's saying much more on this new album... and not sugar coding it with any 'but's' or 'just playing'.

He's showing minor growth on here, but nothing major like you said. It's like this dude is trying to be so 'REAL' with his music that he doesn't even know how to have fun with it anymore. Still don't know what rating I'll give it, but I think I'm feeling this more than FHD which I think is vastly overrated. This new joint shyts on that album in terms of subject matter, and doesn't have anything as corny as Wet Dreamz on it. People might bring up Folding Clothes, but trust that's going to be a hit and it's a dope grown man/simp record whether you want to admit to it or not. The ladies are going to LOVE that song.
Great post but Folding Clothes is really bad. The hook is just downright awful

Wet dreamz had a good hook and told a story

I do. think Cole has boxed himself in as an artist

The no features feel like a gimmick now and you're spot on about where's the fun. What made Cole special is that you felt like he could fit right in on a Saturday pregaming in college before you went out. How the convos switch from talking about bytches to real shyt to jokes

What made FHD special is songs like No Role models, GOMD, and fire squad mixed in with real stuff
 
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