J. Cole - KOD (Discussion Thread)

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Drogas Light is complete trash tho ... this album is actually good:yeshrug:





Why are people bringing up Lupe anyways

Nah b...

Yall buggin.. both albums are mad light

At least my nikka Lu put light in the title... I’ll probbaly never revisit this J Cole shyt again
 

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That might be the case.

But honestly I think it's simple as this.

Cole and Kendrick ain't as good or as smart as people hype.

When they do albums like this it shows how they really lack the wit, intellect, or depth etc that people like to hype they have

Add the fact these albums r not as layered or complex as there fans say they r. Makes the albums look funny in the light.

Because people used this supposed "depth" they have to excuse there lack of replay value and quality.

This album really seemss kinda shallow/surface level in terms of the depth that the fans think it has

Look. I believe this is Cole's best album. I didn't get that immediate cringe I got on EVERY other project he's released. No try hard shyt.

This is Cole at his best. And as much as I like this album, it still kinda misses the real bullseye on several tracks.




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Look. I believe this is Cole's best album. I didn't get that immediate cringe I got on EVERY other project he's released. No try hard shyt.

This is Cole at his best. And as much as I like this album, it still kinda misses the real bullseye on several tracks.




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I’ll take Forest Hill Drive Cole (prime Cole) over mumble rap Cole any day of the week
 

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:picard: @modern rap fans who rather listen to Cardi B rap about sucking dikks than to hear an artist break down the several real world hazards of addiction escapism and materialism .... but I suppose that’s just a sign of the times and really underscores how poignant the message of this album is:whew:









Imagine calling yourself an appreciator of rap then listening to “Window Pain” and your ears telling you that this is “wack music”:mjlol: I honestly feel sorry for some of these dudes ....gotta hope for their sake it’s trolling



Grown men in here talking about “I can’t understand it” .... “ this is too woke” “I rather listen to Jim Jones he’s more my speed”



That’s pretty embarrassing to read TBH :francis:
Cardi B is entertaining. I have books, lectures, and graduate school degrees for all that wannabe intellectual shyt. You ain't impressing me when I look at music to be entertaining. You make it sound like you have no social life. Do you walk around on frown all day?

Cole is nice on here, but another "capitalizm sux" critique is so played out to the point its not really helping anymore. Its just more try-hard shyt. Yes Cole. We know you wanna control how your tax dollars are spent. How about do what Cyhi did?




Heres the thing.

If you wanna rap about that shyt, make it dope.

Hov did that.






You want credit for merely checking the box of "he said it in a line"...thats not how this works.

now dont get me wrong, I think Cole did well on here...but he didn't KNOCK IT OUT.

He's very surface level. No real punchlines or metaphors or similes or indications that he understands ideas enough to flip them to the point where they make lasting and visceral connections.

You all hate Drake, but this is what makes him so potent lyrically. He says things beyond the surface level that resonate with people in ways they carry with them. Its the essence of an idea that Cole is missing. Either cause he can't write as well or he just doesn't have the talent to do so after all this time.



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Just to name a few

nikka did the same thing to another poster asking 21 questions and shyt because of some remarks on Cole:mjlol:
nikka please.

You got me confused with somebody else.

This may be the first time I've quoted someone in a thread about a album.

But I do hate when nikkas critique something with just a " it doesn't live up to hype" but with no comparison to anything else.

FWIW most albums don't live up to hype or are severely underated because there was no hype.
 

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This is pretty much how I feel in a nutshell, I think Cole is the best pure RAPPER out of the big 3–but he not a great writer or that great at making MUSIC.

This album exposed that.

He needs to start working with other people, because this whole “ima lock myself in a studio alone and make an album in a couple weeks” shyt is bringing the quality of his catalog down.

You can tell this was made in 2 weeks, it sounds like a rushed concept album that’s not as deep as people are making it out to be.

He dedicated an entire diss record to LIL PUMP (a rapper that won’t be around in 3 years) and nikkas is acting like this is some timeless classic when it’s not even in his top 3 best projects.

He missed on this shyt, point blank period.

The stans and the “certain intelligence” nikkas can force themselves to listen to this shyt 100x and convince themselves this is some classic but in 3 months no one will be listening to this.

This is better than 4YEO but what does that mean? Cuz that shyt was off base too.

He missed twice in a row since Forest Hills Drive.

It’s looking spooky for J.Cole right now, the nikka that was supposed to pick up where Hov left off. :huhldup:
Heres the thing...when Drake dropped Diplmatic Immunity, all the "spitters" and "rappers rappers" on twitter were ELATED

Drake clearly knows he can do that rappity rap rap shyt too...but his peers can't do what he does...

Some of yall really gotta just look at the span of time and call it a spade.

This is probably his first DECENT album consistency and even then... :francis:
 

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THEY DON'T WANT NO SMOKE


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That might be the case.

But honestly I think it's simple as this.

Cole and Kendrick ain't as good or as smart as people hype.

When they do albums like this it shows how they really lack the wit, intellect, or depth etc that people like to hype they have

Add the fact these albums r not as layered or complex as there fans say they r. Makes the albums look funny in the light.

Because people used this supposed "depth"/"complexity" they have to excuse there lack of replay value and quality.

This album really seemss kinda shallow/surface level in terms of the depth that the fans think it has
what also pisses me off about this is that you can LITERALLY compare the lyrics of 4:44 or even Cyhi's album or KRIT and Cole nor Kendrick are in the same park. Its fukking insulting to actual fans of rap music who know what the streets actually pay attention to.
 

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nikka please.

You got me confused with somebody else.

This may be the first time I've quoted someone in a thread about a album.

But I do hate when nikkas critique something with just a " it doesn't live up to hype" but with no comparison to anything else.

FWIW most albums don't live up to hype or are severely underated because there was no hype.
My critique on this isn't about the, hype it doesn't live up to

I was referring to that phrase regarding how Cole and Kendrick stans act regarding there albums

And yeah some albums especially mainstream ones do not live up to the hype.

But others do and that applies with the guys I named I like there latest albums they had fans excited for they delivered (except Vince with his latest).
 

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Heres the thing...when Drake dropped Diplmatic Immunity, all the "spitters" and "rappers rappers" on twitter were ELATED

Drake clearly knows he can do that rappity rap rap shyt too...but his peers can't do what he does...

Some of yall really gotta just look at the span of time and call it a spade.

This is probably his first DECENT album consistency and even then... :francis:
I like that song but lyrically that still wasn’t touching Cole:pachaha:
 
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