J.Cole - "Let Nas Down" Unappreciation Thread

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where the fukk did this even come from tbh. did nas ever say j.cole let him down :leostare:

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the song is perfect

the intro gave a nikka chills.....him rapin over the nas is like sample

he brought you thru the trials of being an artist on a major label...

how he was searching for a hit. and the importance of it

the hook was dope as fukk

Yeah, long live the idols, may they never be your rivals
Pac was like Jesus, Nas wrote the Bible

Now what you're 'bout to hear's a tale of glory and sin
No I.D. my mentor now let the story begin


then he hit nikkas with that closing verse

do you understand these bars right here?

I always believed in the bigger picture
If I could get them nikkas to listen outside my core then I can open a door
Reintroduce 'em to honesty, show 'em that they need more
The difference between the pretenders and the Kendrick Lamars
And so, I took the fall like the son of the Lord
On the cross, dyin' for that fake shyt you nikkas bought
For the past decade, if I should pass please let this be my last essay
Therefore I write from the heart
Apologies to OG's for sacrificin' my art
But I'm here for a greater purpose, I knew right from the start
I'm just a man of the people, not above but equal
And for the greater good I walk amongst the evil
 

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so if you like j cole

then you would understand that nas is his idol

you would understand how much j cole values his opinions

and you wouldnt of made this stupid ass thread

Yeah, I know he had Nas references all over Friday Night Lights, "Villematic". That still don't make it ok to simp to another dude in a song. Integrity,cuh.

My bad breh, I'm tired and bombed as fukk and just now noticed that the album leaked :facepalm:

It's ok,fam. I understand.
 

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Yeah, I know he had Nas references all over Friday Night Lights, "Villematic". That still don't make it ok to simp to another dude in a song. Integrity,cuh.

nikka music is used to reflect ya feelings

regardless of what you sittin here screaming.

this is how he felt the moment he received the message that his idol frowned upon his reach for a hit song

i mean its clear workout was a reach, it was successful but it was a fukkin bonus track

the song covers different topics. its not only about nas being dissatisfied

its about the process he went thru

son......i understand what you doing right now
 

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Wow. Just YouTubed it. This is the apex of new gen fakkitry. Wow. And this is also why Nas is weak as fukk. He influences THESE type of goofs.


J Cole is officially the wackest dude in the game.
 

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Just heard the song.


Like I said before it even dropped, this song is NOTHING like "Big Brother" save for the pseudo hook. Its about a fan of hip hop growing up idolizing one of the genre's master MC's and how it feels to have that MC show disappointment in you, J.Cole was honest and fair in how he viewed the situation. Again, Work Out was the song that got his album released, he felt like to have a career he was forced to make it, and Nas showed disapproval which angered Cole as Cole pointed out Nas's own history of crossover singles (You Owe Me)


Its an excellent song and I commend J.Cole for showing respect and acknowledging the pitfalls of being an artist signed to a major label who has to in some facet, sacrifice his art to get it to the masses. Like Lupe Fiasco, Cole isn't afraid to call out the bullshyt that comes with being on a Major label. This song is so much more than just "I let Nas down" it's a metaphor for how he feels he let HIMSELF down for having to even release a song like Work Out. Notice how the first bars are a re-spit of Nas Is Like, which was Nas's first single from I AM. THAT is the type of music that J.Cole, in his heart, wants to make and wants to use as a representation of his art. Work Out was merely a means to please Roc Nation and Jay-Z. Cole's entire point is that Nas, who famously quoted in his OWN first single from the controversial and racially charged Untitled


"My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winning
Forgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginning
Still in musical prison, in jail for the flow
Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy Joel
They can't sing what's in their soul
So untitled it is
I never change nothin'
But people remember this
If Nas can't say it, think about these talented kids
With new ideas being told what they can and can't spit"


So J.Cole as a fan of Nas and his lyrics would expect him to understand the struggle of being an artist trying his damndest to make a large enough platform for himself and his art so that it CAN be shared on a mainstream scale. Where the chasm lies is that Nas, 20 years in the game, can release whatever the hell he wants, when he wants, HOW he wants and be successful. A single like Nasty and Daughters can push Nas to Gold because his fanbase will always support him. Can Cole do 250k first week without Work Out? We'll never know the answer and you can be sure the label wasn't going to bet on it. Nas probably believed that Cole could do numbers based upon his talent and lyricism, like Kendrick Lamar did, and Cole obviously believes as such, but Nas has that power to say "this is going to represent my album and my direction", and Cole at the time did not.


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Just heard the song.


Like I said before it even dropped, this song is NOTHING like "Big Brother" save for the pseudo hook. Its about a fan of hip hop growing up idolizing one of the genre's master MC's and how it feels to have that MC show disappointment in you, J.Cole was honest and fair in how he viewed the situation. Again, Work Out was the song that got his album released, he felt like to have a career he was forced to make it, and Nas showed disapproval which angered Cole as Cole pointed out Nas's own history of crossover singles (You Owe Me)


Its an excellent song and I commend J.Cole for showing respect and acknowledging the pitfalls of being an artist signed to a major label who has to in some facet, sacrifice his art to get it to the masses. Like Lupe Fiasco, Cole isn't afraid to call out the bullshyt that comes with being on a Major label. This song is so much more than just "I let Nas down" it's a metaphor for how he feels he let HIMSELF down for having to even release a song like Work Out. Notice how the first bars are a re-spit of Nas Is Like, which was Nas's first single from I AM. THAT is the type of music that J.Cole, in his heart, wants to make and wants to use as a representation of his art. Work Out was merely a means to please Roc Nation and Jay-Z. Cole's entire point is that Nas, who famously quoted in his OWN first single from the controversial and racially charged Untitled


"My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winning
Forgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginning
Still in musical prison, in jail for the flow
Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy Joel
They can't sing what's in their soul
So untitled it is
I never change nothin'
But people remember this
If Nas can't say it, think about these talented kids
With new ideas being told what they can and can't spit"


So J.Cole as a fan of Nas and his lyrics would expect him to understand the struggle of being an artist trying his damndest to make a large enough platform for himself and his art so that it CAN be shared on a mainstream scale. Where the chasm lies is that Nas, 20 years in the game, can release whatever the hell he wants, when he wants, HOW he wants and be successful. A single like Nasty and Daughters can push Nas to Gold because his fanbase will always support him. Can Cole do 250k first week without Work Out? We'll never know the answer and you can be sure the label wasn't going to bet on it. Nas probably believed that Cole could do numbers based upon his talent and lyricism, like Kendrick Lamar did, and Cole obviously believes as such, but Nas has that power to say "this is going to represent my album and my direction", and Cole at the time did not.


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i just amazes me how these nikkas cant see the vision

these bars mean so much to me

"Therefore I write from the heart
Apologies to OG's for sacrificin' my art
But I'm here for a greater purpose, I knew right from the start
I'm just a man of the people, not above but equal
And for the greater good I walk amongst the evil"
 

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this may sound weird.

But if the song had a diff title and hook...it wud be a lot better and impact foul.

As it sounds now..it crossed the line from honesty and went into weirdness.
 

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLF39513uwM"]J. Cole - Let Nas Down (Born Sinner) - YouTube[/ame]
 

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this may sound weird.

But if the song had a diff title and hook...it wud be a lot better and impact foul.

As it sounds now..it crossed the line from honesty and went into weirdness.

:childplease:
 

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I wish you could see the look on my face right now, listening to this shyt, jesus fukking christ.

I didn't even like U.B.R., and i hated big brother, this shyt is like a combination of both.

It's like damn he's not horrible but it's just...i almost feel like somebody should be paying me to listen to him, he's a chore.
 
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