Ja Rule "Black People need to come together as an entity to figure out the N-Word"

[JustCKing]

And yet only those Sets call each other that. Not "the whole world" like what's going on in Rap music.


Big difference.



We also made that distinction around Page 3 (and later on) but I can dig it

I've actually heard "goomba" in a rap song and it was an Italian using it.

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

I've actually heard "goomba" in a rap song and it was an Italian using it.

That's wassup. Thing is tho, Italian Rappers don't really exist and ******/nikka has nothing to do with Gook or Chink or Peckerwood or any of that.


****** has to do with ******. Not anything else. Moot point with no relevance

 

[ℒine ☈acks]

people dont like hearing black folks say nigguh...people also say the hateful 8 is "hilarious"...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

And yet only those Sets call each other that. Not "the whole world" like what's going on in Rap music.


Big difference.

We can't do anything about outsiders jacking out slang and music. The point is, using terms that could be seen as racial epithets as terms of endearment, is not unique to Aframs. It's done all over the world by every race and tons of ethnic groups.

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

We can't do anything about outsiders jacking out slang and music. The point is, using terms that could be seen as racial epithets as terms of endearment, is not unique to Aframs. It's done all over the world by every race and tons of ethnic groups.

Right Strawman. Nobody ever even argued that


You're just trying to tell People that they shouldn't be offended by a word that's offensive to them in particular (that was "designed" for them in particular). And you want People to adopt the idea that there's nothing wrong with that because of some alleged context 600 years ago. Nobody got time for that

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Right Strawman. Nobody ever even argued that


You're just trying to tell People that they shouldn't be offended by a word that's offensive to them in particular (that was "designed" for them in particular).

I never said that. I said black people should be offended by "Nigg(er)". On the flip side of that, I said, nikka is not the same and is different within context. Nigg(er) has no context, it's always offensive.

And you want People to adopt the idea that there's nothing wrong with that because of some alleged context 600 years ago. Nobody got time for that

see above and

Intragroup versus intergroup usage



Black listeners often react to the term differently, depending on whether it is used by white speakers or by black speakers. In the former case, it is regularly understood as insensitive or insulting; in the latter, it may carry notes of in-group disparagement, and is often understood as neutral or affectionate, a possible instance of reappropriation.[citation needed]

Among the black community, the slur ****** is almost always rendered as nikka, representing the pronunciation of the word in African American Vernacular English. This usage has been popularized by the rap and hip-hop music cultures and is used as part of an in-group lexicon and speech. It is not necessarily derogatory and, when used among black people, the word is often used to mean homie or friend.[89]

Acceptance of intra-group usage of the word nikka is still debated,[89] although it has established a foothold amongst younger generations. The NAACP denounces the use of both "nikka" and "******". Mixed-race usage of "nikka" is still considered taboo, particularly if the speaker is white. However, trends indicate that usage of the term in intragroup settings is increasing even amongst white youth due to the popularity of rap and hip hop culture.[90]

According to Arthur K. Spears (Diverse Issues in Higher Education, 2006)

In many African-American neighborhoods, nikka is simply the most common term used to refer to any male, of any race or ethnicity. Increasingly, the term has been applied to any person, male or female. "Where y'all nikkas goin?" is said with no self-consciousness or animosity to a group of women, for the routine purpose of obtaining information. The point: nikka is evaluatively neutral in terms of its inherent meaning; it may express positive, neutral or negative attitudes;[91]

While Kevin Cato observes:

For instance, a show on Black Entertainment Television, a cable network aimed at a black audience, described the word ****** as a "term of endearment." "In the African American community, the word nikka (not ******) brings out feelings of pride" (Davis 1). Here the word evokes a sense of community and oneness among black people. Many teens I interviewed felt that the word had no power when used amongst friends, but when used among white people the word took on a completely different meaning. In fact, comedian Alex Thomas on BET stated, "I still better not hear no white boy say that to me... I hear a white boy say that to me, it means 'White boy, you gonna get your ass beat.'"[92]

 

[Trapped]

As funny as it may seem, this scene is a perfect example of the usage of the word. The word itself is still a taboo for whites, but you have to admit - rap culture popularized it for the masses. You don't hear the word in other genres, rappers used it for titles of the song, the band, etc...which is why I don't think it's meant with a racist intent, it's basically a homage, it means that the fan identifies with the artist, what he goes through, his environment, lifestyle...

A real racist wouldn't even listen to rap. But it's immensely corny to use the word in the context of two whites refering to each others as "nikkas".

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

Can you please stop quoting that. You're not making any point or any sense at this point

I never said that. I said black people should be offended by "Nigg(er)". On the flip side of that, I said, nikka is not the same and is different within context. Nigg(er) has no context, it's always offensive.




see above and

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

As funny as it may seem, this scene is a perfect example of the usage of the word. The word itself is still a taboo for whites, but you have to admit - rap culture popularized it for the masses. You don't hear the word in other genres, rappers used it for titles of the song, the band, etc...which is why I don't think it's meant with a racist intent, it's basically a homage, it means that the fan identifies with the artist, what he goes through, his environment, lifestyle...

A real racist wouldn't even listen to rap. But it's immensely corny to use the word in the context of two whites refering to each others as "nikkas".

A real Racist would love most Rap Music. That's why we have what we have now







Where are y'all gettin this idea that ******/nikka is an acceptable Term if you ain't Black?

Turn off your T.V., turn off your Phone

 

[Trapped]

A real Racist would love most Rap Music. That's why we have what we have now







Where are y'all gettin this idea that ******/nikka is an acceptable Term if you ain't Black?

Turn off your T.V., turn off your Phone

Why would a real racist love most rap music? You're not making any sense. A real racist hates other races, why would he spend time to listen to their music, go to concerts...etc.

I'm just saying that the usage of the word has become so popular in the culture, that people forget or don't even know the origin and background of it. Rappers don't make music just for black people, or do they?

 

[mrken12]

We stop using it and other races are still going to use it. I don't even use the word that much but .

Plus people keep pretending like other races and groups don't use certain words among each other that anyone else would get in trouble for. Obviously none as bad as the n-word but we're the only group that gets criticized over it.

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

Why would a real racist love most rap music? You're not making any sense. A real racist hates other races, why would he spend time to listen to their music, go to concerts...etc.

I'm just saying that the usage of the word has become so popular in the culture, that people forget or don't even know the origin and background of it. Rappers don't make music just for black people, or do they?

"why would a Racist like Rap Music?" Are you serious?


The usage of the word was popularized deliberately and usually not by Our own accord.


You can't have it both ways. Labels either push an Agenda or they don't. The Jews are either pushing a narrative or they're not. Black People are under Warfare or we're not. The Education system is either close to perfect or it ain't. Black People in general are offended by others using the N-Word (regardless of context) or we not. You can't have it both ways


And I'm willing to bet my life that Reality is on my side in this matter

 

[mrken12]

Why would a real racist love most rap music? You're not making any sense. A real racist hates other races, why would he spend time to listen to their music, go to concerts...etc.

I'm just saying that the usage of the word has become so popular in the culture, that people forget or don't even know the origin and background of it. Rappers don't make music just for black people, or do they?

Back during the early 20th century and segregation white people still were going to blues concerts and seeing other black musicians despite hating black people in general. White people always were able to accept black people as entertainers but nothing more than that.

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

We stop using it and other races are still going to use it. I don't even use the word that much but .

Plus people keep pretending like other races and groups don't use certain words among each other that anyone else would get in trouble for. Obviously none as bad as the n-word but we're the only group that gets criticized over it.

No. If we stopped using it in our Arts then the word would fall into the cracks again.

Turn Up Money, Ayo that's Lit b, Hoootie Hoooo

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Can you please stop quoting that. You're not making any point or any sense at this point