Jamal Crawford explains how Westbrook is viewed differently between players and "stat guys"

[BigMoneyGrip]

Sam Presti need to hold a monumental L Draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it...
KD
Westbrook
Harden
Ibaka
Green

 

[Guvnor]

All facts!

 

[Animal House]

I have nothing but respect for Mal but I feel like I the criticism of him being a regular season player is valid. Looking at some of y’all post about Brook it seem like you didn’t watch him in the playoffs or against GS when KD was on his team. Breh literally would turn the ball over in the last 2 minutes or minute of the fourth constantly when it mattered for years. Context is key as in when do you score, rebound ect. He is one of the greats no doubt but sorry the criticism he gets is warranted, we watched him play

 

[Michael's Black Son]

What the fukk are you talking about???

Breh needs to watch The Last Dance and see how many CACs were riding that Bulls wave like it would never end.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Russ always been one of my favorite players to watch and what he's done is amazing

 

[The_Third_Man]

oh so now the coli is blaming the Westbrook hate all on analytics?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

The biggest thing is after all the insane regular season numbers, he's had so many dud playoff performances and horrific shooting games that it kinda nullifies everything. Dame sonned him something vicious when they met a couple years ago and that's a guy who's had his own postseason struggles.

The same way we talk about Giannis when he gets walled off in the playoffs and doesn't have the same impact.

And folks tend to overrate tf outta Dame but get caught up in those mid court 3 pointers. iirc, wasn’t he usually a one and done in the playoffs like Russy’s OKC squads after KD bounced before last season?

 

[horizon]

Leave some dikk for Russ's wife jesus yall really thirsting out here huh

Been nonstop gargling that man's balls for a month meanwhile Steph, an actual winner, is one of the more polarizing players on here

 

[Paper Boi]

Cacs ruined NBA by gentrifying it

at the end of the day their little actuarial tables and algorithms get proven wrong time and time again.

last year was supposed to be the bucks year
hawks was their favorite thing for years, now it's the jazz.

at the end of the day the game is played on the court, not in an excel sheet or a simulation.

i feel like the dubs gave the nerds a lot of credence but they had the most atypical of situations and we've seen that it's not easy (maybe not possible) to replicate.

the nerds will lose out in the end or the NBA will die a slow death like baseball.

 

[Regular_P]

And folks tend to overrate tf outta Dame but get caught up in those mid court 3 pointers. iirc, wasn’t he usually a one and done in the playoffs like Russy’s OKC squads after KD bounced before last season?

That and a lot of terrible shooting performances. Two sub-37% playoff runs and like 40% for his postseason career. The 2019 WCF against GS where Steph dominated him and they blew double digit leads in every game while he shot 37% for the series.

 

[Ziggiy]

Ohhhhh, that makes sense. The Black kids at your high school watched basketball so therefore the NBA didn't have white fans in the early 2000s. Got it.

Since when did we give a fukk about quantifying, legitimizing, or acknowledging white fans either way? Why exactly are you caping for the sanctity of the white fanbase?






Could it be that your……..

 

[Swagnificent]

Stat guys ruined the game

You know what was crazy. Back in the day I didn't even know who led the league in something as big as PPG. I remember being shocked as a kid around Dec. 2000 when I opened up the newspaper at school to look up NBA scores in the sports section and I saw Kobe was leading the league in scoring at nearly 30ppg. I was like damn wasn't he the #2 option to Shaq just the season before? That's a full 2-3 months into the season and I didn't even know my favorite player was leading the league in points.

Now you can't watch anyone talk NBA anywhere without stats being all up in your face.

 

[Swagnificent]

U didn’t grow up around many white people?

Not in my neighborhood. But there were plenty at my schools. Almost every one of my friends that I used to play basketball with as a kid was black.

 

[Swagnificent]

The same thing applies to you fukk face. You’re one person whose OPINION is no more valid than anyone else’s. Y’all dummies stay trying to retroactively apply what’s going on today twenty years in the past. Early 2000s NBA was was straight hip hop. The culture was braids, durags, tattoos, baggy clothes, street style crossovers and AND1 mixtapes. Players rapping and being in music videos every other week. Why you think David Stern tried to change the culture of the NBA dummy? He would’ve had no reason to change anything if nothing was wrong. These white kids were not fukking with it. Half of them were skating and doing ollies after school. GTFO my face nikka

TRUTH.

Even the white players were like Jason Williams aka white chocolate.

Totally different era culturally in hoops than the one we are in right now.

 

[Swagnificent]

The lack of physicality in today’s game is why Russell can do what he does. He wouldn’t be averaging a Triple Double in the 90’s or the early 2000’s.

That and the possessions being more because of the faster pace of play. Nonetheless, its still an impressive feat considering nobody else has been close and he's about to do it for the 4th time in 5 years.