Jason Kidd has retired

[Optimus Prime]

Hill a hofer

Its the "Basketball" HOF not NBA HOF. College Career counts and Grant has 2 Titles, 3 Final Fours along with his NBA stats, he's in the top 10 triple doubles, top 5 MVP voting 5 times, Olympic Gold, 6 great years as a top player, he will get the pre-injury excuse and the media/players love him

 

[L&HH]

Hill a hofer

Whenever someone says this someone else always brings up the same reasoning...its the BASKETBALL hof. And what he did in college going play a large factor. Also 7x all star, 4x 2nd team, 1x 1st team, gold medalist could be enough

 

[kingofnyc]

to kidd -with this & sat night w/hill



NOW... im feeling kinda old im just a year or 2 younger then these nikkaz

 

[Brozay]

HoopsHype - NBA Salaries - New York Knicks

He's only 3 mil the next 2 seasons

9 million

@ 'frees up 9 mil'

 

[Liquid]

Are you out of your fukking mind?


He will make it in due to his college career. But if it was strictly an NBA hall of fame he wouldn't even be allowed in with a ticket.

Injuries count...and he got injured RIGHT when he was about to get into his prime.

20, 5, 5+ his first 5-6 years gets him in. One of only 6 players to ever accomplish that.

 

[Street Knowledge]

The only thing I never liked was the idea that he deserved the MVP in 02'. Duncan was clearly better

 

[Trademarkk]

Thank you Lord

 

[Mic-Nificent]

To the best PG of his generation. Still think he should have won that MVP over Duncan in 02.

 

[Arcavian]

:sarajay:

 

[We Ready]

Injuries count...and he got injured RIGHT when he was about to get into his prime.

20, 5, 5+ his first 5-6 years gets him in. One of only 6 players to ever accomplish that.

Yeah injuries count..........they count against you. :al:

 

[Liquid]

Yeah injuries count..........they count against you. :al:

not when the media likes you

 

[Liquid]

The only thing I never liked was the idea that he deserved the MVP in 02'. Duncan was clearly better

Nah, Kidd deserved that nod in 2002. If you want to go that route then the MVP trophies Steve Nash won should be removed.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Nah, Kidd deserved that nod in 2002. If you want to go that route then the MVP trophies Steve Nash won should be removed.

And that right there is my problem with the logic behind MVP voting. It seems to shift in order to justify who people want to vote for. One year people will say "It's supposed to go to the best player on the best team" then a year later people say "_____ should clearly win because he's clearly the best player in the league" only for a year after that to say "_____ is clearly the most valuable player on his team because if you removed him that team would be in the bottom of the conference".

 

[dappadonna]

:sarajay:

 

[Liquid]

And that right there is my problem with the logic behind MVP voting. It seems to shift in order to justify who people want to vote for. One year people will say "It's supposed to go to the best player on the best team" then a year later people say "_____ should clearly win because he's clearly the best player in the league" only for a year after that to say "_____ is clearly the most valuable player on his team because if you removed him that team would be in the bottom of the conference".

It really depends though. My whole argument is that if you want to say that Kidd did not deserve it in 2002, then how could Steve Nash possibly have won it back to back? Kidd took the nets...the NEW JERSEY NETS to the finals TWICE. Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson should owe Kidd millions for what he did to their career.