Yeah, I'd put him in my top 5.
One thing I s that he doesn't have a 10/10 album
But that's very minor as I consider his big 3 to be 9.5/10's
blue print 1 is 10/10 breh
Jay-Z is not top 5 !
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blue print 1 is 10/10 breh
Farrinto
Who's the best MCs? Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas
What song on RD could be classified as "jiggy"? The "jiggy era" didn't even start until after RD dropped.
Murkman
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Let me evaluate their pros and cons, then compare them to Hov's, because this some typical "I hate Camel" fukk nikka shyt. One day you losers praise him like he is Black Jesus, next day same childish ass Camel jokes, do you nikkas watch National Geographic?
Cube sucks mostly at punchlines, rhyme schemes and decent flows.
He has some good concepts and is a great storyteller, used to write classic diss tracks. Once Cube reached the 00's his peak potential dipped immediately, face it. As me being a nikka from Cali, anyone with common sense knew what was gonna happen, he went "Straight Into The Hills".
Big seldom evolved across 2 albums, he wasn't actually doing new things in rapping. Stans say he is original and that Jay bit him, but thanked Black Moon for giving him a style to run with in "Ready To Die" album credits.
He was like every other renowned New York Rap artist, get over it, Puffy gassed him long before we all knew he wasn't able to see through the bullshyt and label politics.
Pac is reknown as a storyteller, songwriter and being a great rhymer, nice flows and spiritually heavy delivery. But he had a tendency to repeat himself, and be contradicting as fukk after Death Row.
Scarface is reknown for storytelling and some concepts, that's it.
Nas has 2 good diss tracks, outdated punchlines, but classic storytelling songs and some great concepts. But nikkas acting like Nas hasn't dropped tons of trash or filler either, "Remember The Times" is the most cringe song made from that era.
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Here's why Hov always deserves to be Top 5, if not 10 being placed above them in categories they never will make in.
Hov still alive unlike Big and Pac and shown capabilities to change style on numerous projects for long term success. Nas has an unlistenable, and inconsistent discography both musically and artistically outside 4 albums. Pac wasn't well-rounded, despite his iconic status as a songwriter and Rap artist. Scarface isn't even the best storyteller of all the ones you mentioned.
In contrast, Hov has better bars than ALL of them on most of his projects, various rhyme schemes, changed flows on single songs more than they have for entire discographies, gives you new perspectives on stories (Nas seldom does), tons of concepts, delivery has more emotion than Nas, Biggie and Scarface (Cube and Pac have him there). To this day still has lines having you go
decades later.Do I even gotta mention this nikka's feature and remix game? I dare you to try to compare those other nikkas who aren't praised for that in any way. Please, do and
How he is not in their league, if not above them? nikka ain't dead yet, Nas still can't give you something different 10 years later, Cube never had street cred and making the
past 3 albums, Scarface is only good at one thing which 100's of emcees are already better than him at. Nas rapping about now shyt y'all Stan him for, Hov been covering over 15 years ago, but whatever you stay complaining about Rap being boring with topics, what is Nas's excuse?You don't hear them rapping over new production styles either (when Nas, Cube or Scarface tries it sounds terrible), or trying to advance their craft in other ways.
Not gonna lie, Hov has had his down moments like they have too, but you tripping if you think he don't have a well aged discography, with a natural curve sensibly declining in quality.
He also didn't get played by Puffy or Suge, won most of his beefs, is a constant inspiration for even New generation of rappers, Nas signed to him when he was Def Jam president and Cube went onto make Hollywood movies.
Recently, he just bought all his masters, excluding RD!
But he ain't TOP TIER to you basic nikkas?
@Inspect Her Deck and I thought RG's casual fanbase was bad at debating GOAT's in Rap. Coli secretly hates this nikka for embodying everything they wanted in a "Real Rap artist" and even did it commercially, still no respect.
Everything you nikkas hate about Rap now, how many times has Hov saved it or at least delayed it? With no thanks to Nas's trend-hopping ass, Puffy's opulence and shark nikka ways, Pac's obsession with gang ties, Big's need to overcompensate the same subject matter that plagues stagnant growth for New York today for the sake of "realness", Scarface not taking risks at all for the South, etc.
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I don't Stan big L, i just was trying to create a unique hip hop avy but also giving a nod to underrated lyricism.
Listen my point is Jay has had a long, successful career full of accolades and chart-topping singles.
He's lasted from the 90's to the 2000's and even into the 2010's.
Not only has he lasted but he's been able to stay relevant and continues to chart til this day.
if Big was still alive, this would be a different discussion.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
murkman just mentioned too much irrelevant bullshyt to take that post seriously.
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pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
jay-z not top 5 or ten for me because he ass lyrically rd is his most lyrical album i will give him that but outside of that no.
Inspect Her Deck
Skins of all colours come together as brothers
Let me evaluate their pros and cons, then compare them to Hov's, because this some typical "I hate Camel" fukk nikka shyt.
Cube sucks mostly at punchlines, rhyme schemes and deceng flows. He has some good concepts and is a great storyteller, used to write classic diss tracks.
Big seldom evolved across 2 albums, he wasn't actually doing new things in rapping. Stans say he is original and that Jay bit him, but thanked Black Moon for giving him a style to run with in "Ready To Die" album credits. He was like every other renowned New York Rap artist, get over it.
Pac is reknown as a storyteller, songwriter and being a great rhymer, nice flows and spiritually heavy delivery. But he had a tendency to repeat himself and be contradicting as fukk after Death Row.
Scarface is reknown for storytelling and some concepts, that's it.
Nas has 2 good diss tracks, outdated punchlines, but classic storytelling songs and some great concepts. But nikkas acting like Nas hasn't dropped tons of trash or filler either, "Remember The Times" is the most cringe song made from that era.
Hov still alive unlike Big and shown capabilities to change style on numerous projects for long term success. Nas has an unlistenable, and inconsistent discography both musically and artistically outside 4 albums. Pac wasn't well-rounded, despite his iconic status as a songwriter and Rap artist. Scarface isn't even the best storyteller of all the ones you mentioned.
In contrast, Hov has better bars than Big on most of his projects, various rhyme schemes, changed flows on single songs more than they have for entire discographies, gives you new perspectives on stories (Nas seldom does), tons of concepts, delivery has more emotion than Nas, Biggie and Scarface (Cube and Pac have him there). To this day still has lines having you go
Do I even gotta mention this nikka's feature and remix game?
How he is not in their league, if not above them? nikka ain't dead yet, Nas still can't give you something different 10 years later, Cube never had street cred, Scarface is only good at one thing which 100's of emcees are already better than him at.
Nas rapping about now shyt y'all Stan him for, Hov been covering over 15 years ago.
You don't hear them rapping over new production styles either (when Nas, Cube or Scarface tries it sounds terrible), or trying to advance their craft in other ways.
Not gonna lie, Hov has had his down moments like they have too, but you tripping if you think he don't have a well aged discography, with a natural curve sensibly declining in quality.
He also didn't get played by Puffy or Suge, Nas signed to him when he was Def Jam president and Cube went onto make Hollywood movies.
But he ain't TOP TIER to you basic nikkas?
Cube's flows are very good and wide-ranging. And yeah Cube isn't a punchline rapper so it ain't important. Leave that stuff to Big L or Redman or Wayne.
Cube's strength is his vocals. His convincing emotional display. His energy. It accentuates his powerful writing.
Not gonna argue about anyone else lol I don't care to. But Cube deserves his place amongst the very best. Even if his run was concentrated in a prime of 8 years or so.
Farrinto
Who's the best MCs? Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas
Shut your retarded, flip flopping ass up.jay-z is so underrated with rhyme schemes it's disgusting
ok im going to make the case that jay-z is the best lyricist ever
jay-z got some of the most sickest internal rhymes and rhyme schemes ever
i think jay-z is a underrated mc in terms of rhyming
notorious big pen game can't see jay-z on his worst day
jay-z >>>>>>>>> biggie as a lyricist
Inspect Her Deck
Skins of all colours come together as brothers
you stan the fukking guy and made a thread about him and now this
you bipolar crazy motherfukker lol @Murkman I told you about this guy
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he's top 1 stop it
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blueprint, blueprint 2 , the gift and the curse wasnt 10/10 ?Yeah, I'd put him in my top 5.
One thing I s that he doesn't have a 10/10 album
But that's very minor as I consider his big 3 to be 9.5/10's
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
so because i don't agree with everything he says im bipolar lmao smh
first off i never stanned anybody second take his dikk out of your mouth i guess u want me to agree with everything like u do lmao u dikk eating ass motherfukker.
Funkadelic
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blueprint, blueprint 2 , the gift and the curse wasnt 10/10 ?
Blueprint 2, a 10/10?
Are you trolling?
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jay-z is so underrated with rhyme schemes it's disgusting
ok im going to make the case that jay-z is the best lyricist ever
jay-z got some of the most sickest internal rhymes and rhyme schemes ever
i think jay-z is a underrated mc in terms of rhyming
notorious big pen game can't see jay-z on his worst day
jay-z >>>>>>>>> biggie as a lyricist
JayBaldacci
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ain't no nikka.