JAY-Z NEVER RAN THE RAP GAME - agree or disagree?

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The one Drake feature on DS2 was the biggest song on the album and at that point, it was the biggest song of Future's career.

Who was really checking for Drake that wasn't already checking for him before WATTBA? That project grew Future's base because his other ones didn't do as well then his label just started releasing music left and right.
only thing WATTBA did was open future up to more white fans. i don't care at all about white fans.

black people already knew what was up with future.
 

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This is not true. By that logic, Jay ran a lot of these years. Drake was bigger than Future in 2015-2016. Ua'll be rewriting history based on personal biases. If somebody's running something everything including numbers reflects that.

Drake was more popular based off previous work, Futures shyt from that year surpasses Drakes from that year easily. Ion even like Future like that but dude was poppin
 

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Drake was more popular based off previous work, Futures shyt from that year surpasses Drakes from that year easily. Ion even like Future like that but dude was poppin

He was still more popular and Drake that year was different from Drake in previous years. Drake was more Rap that year than the sing songy rap songs that he usually made. Quentin wad a huge part of that. Then there was the beef with Meek Mill. Can't act like "Back to Back" wasn't killing it.

Quality is arguably because its moreso opinion than fact.
 

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only thing WATTBA did was open future up to more white fans. i don't care at all about white fans.

black people already knew what was up with future.

Breh, that album was not made for no white fans. Besides, Future was already doing things to ipen himself up to them, none of it lined up until DS2. And truthfully a lot of Future's core base turned on him when he dropped Honest.
 

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and that Drake did not run rap from 11-17 straight :camby:

Future ran 2015 and Kendrick ran 2017. :camby:


Yo these drake dikkriders are really starting to piss me off

Kanye ran 07, '10-'12
Drake ran '11, '14-16

2013 Was shared by Jay, Drake, Kendrick, Cole and Kanye. Drake didn't "run" that year
 

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Breh, that album was not made for no white fans. Besides, Future was already doing things to ipen himself up to them, none of it lined up until DS2. And truthfully a lot of Future's core base turned on him when he dropped Honest.
it wasn't made for white fans but white fans of drake were hyped on it because it was new drake. black fans were hyped on it because it came off the heels of future's mixtape run plus new drake as well. it was rap 2 superstars collaborating at their peak. that why it made sense from a financial and hype perspective.

a lot of future's core fans turned on him with honest because it was him trying to appeal to white people then he brought it back to with monster, beast mode, and 56 nights.
 

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Yo these drake dikkriders are really starting to piss me off

Kanye ran 07, '10-'12
Drake ran '11, '14-16

2013 Was shared by Jay, Drake, Kendrick, Cole and Kanye. Drake didn't "run" that year

Kanye did not run '10-'12. Rick Ross and Drake were bigger than Kanye during those years. What's even crazier is that Kanye's biggest album during those years featured Rick Ross TWICE. Ross had "BMF" poppin' off every corner and ever since then. Then there was "MC Hammer". "Aston Martin Music" was his biggest record commercially. Then there was the tapes that had huge songs on them to ne mixtape joints. Rich Forever was bigger than whatever Ye dropped in 2012. Then there was God Forgives, I Don't. In 2011, Ross, Drake, and Wayne were killin it with "On One". Then Wale and Meek Mill got a huge assist from Ross with "That Way" and I'm a Boss" respectively from the first Self Made compilation.
 

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it wasn't made for white fans but white fans of drake were hyped on it because it was new drake. black fans were hyped on it because it came off the heels of future's mixtape run plus new drake as well. it was rap 2 superstars collaborating at their peak. that why it made sense from a financial and hype perspective.

a lot of future's core fans turned on him with honest because it was him trying to appeal to white people then he brought it back to with monster, beast mode, and 56 nights.

There's no way you can construe WATTBA into a Black and white discussion. For starters, a lot of those fans don't even check for Drake's full on rap records like that. Secondly, that album wasn't crossover or even put out there to be on their radar.

Future was not a superstar and is still not a superstar. Superstars are people that are A list internationally. It was one superstar collaborating with an artist on the cusp of stardom.
 
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