Jed counts the M's, while the team holds the L's: Official 49ers 2016 Season Thread

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Hope this is Baalke's last year. Dude is a trash GM and should just be a scout.

I have mixed feelings about that..... cuz if it comes down to him being fired...ultimately it means we had a terrible year. I really just want to see us be competitive in the grande scheme of things. Even though its ULTIMATELY about SBs and that "Quest for 6." I would absolutely love it if we can get back to having seasons where "we're right there in the end" and dominate our divisional opponents again.

I may not like some of the decisions or personnel with the squad.... but abhor Seahawks, Cards and the threat of Steelers or Pats winning another one
 
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Hey man.... Check this out.

And this is probably my last time addressing you or this is general.

You don't know me, will probably never meet me.

You don't like what I said, don't have to like what I say, and don't have to agree.

But you can be civil.

Don't fukking disrespect me or call me dumb or any other names again.

I may not agree with things you say but I've never talked down to you or disrespected you. I don't even curse you as much.... Frankly I've for the most part treated you as I'd hope or expected to be treated back.

I'm sorry, but to get giddy over 4th per season game performance makes me seriously question how much you know about football

It's not personal, but I can't help but thunk that
 

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I'm sorry, but to get giddy over 4th per season game performance makes me seriously question how much you know about football

It's not personal, but I can't help but thunk that

Look.... if its not personal then just temper how you address me. Because if its indeed an issue of beef..... then fukk football, wrestling, coli, etc.... that can be handled in other "decisive" ways and scenarios.

As far as the initial discussion..... I think you took a lot of shyt out of context. I wasnt giddy like "oh he's the best QB on the squad, Ponder can lead us to a SB, blah blah."

Was he playing against 3rd and 4th stringers on the final game of preseason? Yes and he looked pretty good for someone that only been on the team a week or so comparison to Driskell (who's been there since day one) so if anything I was more happy that he looked more "superior" to that level of talent vs looking like a guy who is struggling against that level or fits right in ala Driskel.

Him playing that well lets me know "well hey he's better that that and possibly can play well against better guys"
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I'm still not sold on Gabbert.... and it has NOTHING to do with Kaep.

My thing is this....... that Chicago game last year that we BARELY WON with Cutler basically giving that game to us. And that embarrassing Browns game last year told me what I needed to know about Gabbert and really proved to me that Kaep ALONE wasnt the issue on the team when the season ended and I could assess things.

Gabbert came in on the SOFT END of our schedule last year facing garbage to weak teams like Falcons, Bears, Lions, Rams, and Browns.
Cards and Bengals were the only hands down tough teams, Seahawks was a "meh" team.

I was at that time expecting (even with that squad) if indeed it was a KAEP problem, for us to go atleast 5-3..... possibly 6-2 taking out maybe the Seahawks or Bengals (thought we could be that upset team against Bengals). If he wouldve done that and done it convincingly I'd be more on board. But instead he ended going 3-5 with 2 of the wins we won by luck and didnt really show me anything thats proves to me his best was better than Kaeps best. We already know what Kaeps best is.... deep trips to the playoffs and a SB. Hell, I didnt even think he looked better than Alex Smith at his best.

Every consistent starter of the last 5 or more years has had good years and bad years.... just doesnt make sense. Matter fact its just frustrating to see other franchises can have QB's who have subpar or average years and no one jumps to want to want to push them out as quickly. Eli fukking Manning had a 7-9 year where he only completed 57% of his passes, had 18 TDs and 27 INTs, and QBR of 69 and it wasnt like "oh he's regressed, he's garbage, get rid of him."

And dont let me get started on Luck.

I just feel like you shouldnt easily give up on guys that either won you SBs, taking you to SBs, or give you deep playoff runs. Just do whatever regarding the team to make them and the team better but let them cook.
 

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Look.... if its not personal then just temper how you address me. Because if its indeed an issue of beef..... then fukk football, wrestling, coli, etc.... that can be handled in other "decisive" ways and scenarios.

As far as the initial discussion..... I think you took a lot of shyt out of context. I wasnt giddy like "oh he's the best QB on the squad, Ponder can lead us to a SB, blah blah."

Was he playing against 3rd and 4th stringers on the final game of preseason? Yes and he looked pretty good for someone that only been on the team a week or so comparison to Driskell (who's been there since day one) so if anything I was more happy that he looked more "superior" to that level of talent vs looking like a guy who is struggling against that level or fits right in ala Driskel.

Him playing that well lets me know "well hey he's better that that and possibly can play well against better guys"
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I'm still not sold on Gabbert.... and it has NOTHING to do with Kaep.

My thing is this....... that Chicago game last year that we BARELY WON with Cutler basically giving that game to us. And that embarrassing Browns game last year told me what I needed to know about Gabbert and really proved to me that Kaep ALONE wasnt the issue on the team when the season ended and I could assess things.

Gabbert came in on the SOFT END of our schedule last year facing garbage to weak teams like Falcons, Bears, Lions, Rams, and Browns.
Cards and Bengals were the only hands down tough teams, Seahawks was a "meh" team.

I was at that time expecting (even with that squad) if indeed it was a KAEP problem, for us to go atleast 5-3..... possibly 6-2 taking out maybe the Seahawks or Bengals (thought we could be that upset team against Bengals). If he wouldve done that and done it convincingly I'd be more on board. But instead he ended going 3-5 with 2 of the wins we won by luck and didnt really show me anything thats proves to me his best was better than Kaeps best. We already know what Kaeps best is.... deep trips to the playoffs and a SB. Hell, I didnt even think he looked better than Alex Smith at his best.

Every consistent starter of the last 5 or more years has had good years and bad years.... just doesnt make sense. Matter fact its just frustrating to see other franchises can have QB's who have subpar or average years and no one jumps to want to want to push them out as quickly. Eli fukking Manning had a 7-9 year where he only completed 57% of his passes, had 18 TDs and 27 INTs, and QBR of 69 and it wasnt like "oh he's regressed, he's garbage, get rid of him."

And dont let me get started on Luck.

I just feel like you shouldnt easily give up on guys that either won you SBs, taking you to SBs, or give you deep playoff runs. Just do whatever regarding the team to make them and the team better but let them cook.

Black QB's are marked men the second they take the field. That's just how it is. Seems like everyone is getting a fresh start this year. Last year is completely voided...unless you're Kaep. The argument that pits Gabbert against Kaep last season is dumb because it completely ignores all of the factors at play.
 

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Black QB's are marked men the second they take the field. That's just how it is. Seems like everyone is getting a fresh start this year. Last year is completely voided...unless you're Kaep. The argument that pits Gabbert against Kaep last season is dumb because it completely ignores all of the factors at play.

I know its a broken record with me.... but its just crazy no one ever talks about how shytty how RBs core was last year..... for someone so garbage and only played 7 games... Kaep was (by force, not really all 100% choice) was the 2nd leading rusher on the team going into the final game of the season.

But peeps be "mums" on how much our protection and running game "regressed"
 

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I like him for defense and oline. I kinda want chip to make wr picks in the draft but his record ain't great either at philly

If Chip could get us back on track of being his 10-6... I'd be content with that to start..... he really only had one terrible year and that was last year..... and before people take it out of context thinking I'm saying he was GREAT top 3 levels or 10-6 is GAWDLY.... calm down..... just saying 10-6 atleast puts you in the wild card playoff discussion and position
 
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