Jeezy exposes record labels for intentionally paying young, traumatized rappers millions to rap about killing each other,

[Finesse]

Its deeper than rap. America thrives on violence and sex.

Goodfellas, Godfather, Breaking Bad all peak American entertainment. Aint a black person involved in none of that shyt.

 

[Big Boss]

AFTER HE'S MADE HIS MONEY!!! That nikka is the same age as me. You don't think he knew in his 30s going into his 40s that his music was wrong? Stop making excuses for these guys. If you don't complain about the BS when you're on top and contributing to it, don't complain about it when you're not the hot artist. Simple as that. He could have made a difference when he was on top!! As for fronting, I assume you've never read my hip hop posts. I've never in my life bought or listened to a Jeezy album. I always thought this nikka was garbage. What happened is that I finally listened to his debut 2 years ago when guys from a podcast suggested I should hear it. I picked a day and listened to it and thought it was decent. Not my cup of tea, but it was good. But trust me, I NEVER listened to any Jeezy, Gucci, Future, etc... If you don't believe that, then you obviously have never read any of my posts . I was 28 years old when he dropped., Do you really believe I was out here listening to that???

That's really the main issue

 

[boogers]

I remember this video.

Wise is powerful and a well spoken intellectual.

Very direct, confident and influential in his speech.

 

[jilla82]

now im getting suggested all these old videos on YT
Crazy how nothing ever changes

Even the "this is just Al Capone with a beat to it" excuse was used in this video

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Street c00n rappers talk about that stuff on their independent mixtapes way before they even get a label’s attention

Jeezy hanging out the coupe and let it ride sideways.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

AFTER HE'S MADE HIS MONEY!!! That nikka is the same age as me. You don't think he knew in his 30s going into his 40s that his music was wrong? Stop making excuses for these guys. If you don't complain about the BS when you're on top and contributing to it, don't complain about it when you're not the hot artist. Simple as that. He could have made a difference when he was on top!! As for fronting, I assume you've never read my hip hop posts. I've never in my life bought or listened to a Jeezy album. I always thought this nikka was garbage. What happened is that I finally listened to his debut 2 years ago when guys from a podcast suggested I should hear it. I picked a day and listened to it and thought it was decent. Not my cup of tea, but it was good. But trust me, I NEVER listened to any Jeezy, Gucci, Future, etc... If you don't believe that, then you obviously have never read any of my posts . I was 28 years old when he dropped., Do you really believe I was out here listening to that???

Jeezy was also 28 when that album dropped, so there actually wouldn’t be a problem if you were listening to that. Now if you’re the same age as Jeezy and you’re listening to NBA Youngboy and his current peers now, THAT’S a problem

 

[O.Red]

The people want whatever is marketed most to them. If it was positivity then it would become what people wanted. It’s how marketing works

This is a one sided argument

People always talk about marketing like its solely relegated to big building corporations but any human being or group is capable of marketing. That said gangsta rap/drill, to a degree, markets itself

Too much revisionist history with no pushback. NWA blew up without radio play because they refused to play it. The streets chose it then the labels came along. If coming up through the streets ain't marketing what is?

This site gets so attached to outdated ideas. We still having this "The labels pushing drill music" argument when drill music ain't been poppin for yearsDrill died with King Von to be honest. And even when it was having motion the overwhelming majority of them nikkas were unsigned

Most times these labels come around when nikkas been poppin through local and regional/social media fame, and again drill artists were never getting signed like that

These labels care about money. Y'all conveniently forget that Interscope pushed Chief Keef and Kendrick in the same year. Who would you say got the better end of that deal? Matter fact can anyone name a drill/gangsta artist that's bigger than Kendrick?

 

[FTBS]

Its deeper than rap. America thrives on violence and sex.

Goodfellas, Godfather, Breaking Bad all peak American entertainment. Aint a black person involved in none of that shyt.

What you say is true but that also the problem.

Brian Cranston, Ray Liotta, Pacino etc. arent trying to live up to their characters in real life. They arent accusing other actors of not living their films. Young white kids arent emulating them in real life. There are plenty of other depictions of white folks. That is in no way used to define them or held up as any sort of standard of realness. Most importantly, no real people are being harmed.


So yes, people in general love sex and violence. Black folks are the only ones being boxed in and suffering real life consequences.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Jeezy was also 28 when that album dropped, so there actually wouldn’t be a problem if you were listening to that. Now if you’re the same age as Jeezy and you’re listening to NBA Youngboy and his current peers now, THAT’S a problem

If you find one post on this site of me talking about buying or listening to Jeezy or trash azz young boy, I will personally send you $2k cash app right now. Two years ago is the first time I EVER heard 101 and I did that for a podcast. Other than that, the whole trap genre is azz to me.

 

[O.Red]

That's really the main issue

AFTER HE'S MADE HIS MONEY!!! That nikka is the same age as me. You don't think he knew in his 30s going into his 40s that his music was wrong? Stop making excuses for these guys. If you don't complain about the BS when you're on top and contributing to it, don't complain about it when you're not the hot artist.

I've been watching a lot of these CEO conferences lately and it's insane watching how utopian they get about the future while they push their bullshyt

"In the future AI will solve poverty and world hunger and everyone will have a free college education and will have nano machines doing all of the work" and all that Star Trek bullshyt. We've seen Elon say this type of nonsense

But nobody ever interrupts them on some " you know, you could do a lot to solve poverty and hunger right now. Ain't you worth $300 billion dollars?"

So yea of course you're more reflective and aware in your 50s but like some of y'all have said it ain't like Jeezy got on as a teenager Nikka knew what he was doing

 

[tweezy]

man im tired of this shyt. We're 50+ years into rap we need to let go of that victim mentality and take our shyt back.

Labels can only put out and monetize of the shyt you record so stop killing nikkas on records and it'll stop being the popular subject. There's millions of ways of getting your music out and becoming successful without labels who is just a bank operating like a check cashing place.

The worst thing of it all is that we are underestimating the power we hold in all of entertainment. Black artists drive trends so we can make anything we want popular.

This...

 

[O.Red]

This isn't a conspiracy theory....

80s were one of the most violent decades during crack epidemic and rappers back then rapped about what they wanted and you'd barely ever hear ignorant lyrics about selling drugs like it's a cool thing, shooting another man, etc. Some people do want violence, but rapping didn't start as some violence glorification, read the history.

Fast forward to early 90s, rapping reaches bigger audience and all of a sudden a lot of positive thinking artists are being pushed little by little to the side and new rough hardcore artists are being promoted as the new trend. Even some of the artists who used to make innocent party music from back in the 80s then shaved their head, adopted a rougher sounding style to fit in there, etc.

And it's not just Hip-Hop, Rock music also saw an increase of dark emo lyrics in the 90s, all that antisocial bullshyt with lyrics about them being on the verge of crashing out in life, etc.

It's not like humanity all of a sudden decided "Hey let's start making more violent music cause it's cool!"

Today's rappers don't even need to get paid to rap ignorant shyt because they grew up in the days when that type of style was considered a trend.

Is it a possibility that maybe those party music rappers shaved their heads and adopted a rougher sound to fit in did it because that shyt was poppin? Any possibility?

Y'all don't understand how much agency y'all remove from black folks when you make these arguments. Again you talking about check the history but y'all conveniently forget that the radio stations refused to play gangsta rap and the shyt blew up anyway. Why is that?

Y'all keep framing these arguments like a cabal of shadowy white men led the ignorant black youth to the river when the truth is the labels came to the river when they noticed a party was going on. This is always what happens. Black people do something within their own communities then white folks show up, long after it was poppin, and capitalize on it.

Y'all can't be like black people create everything cool then in the next breath act like we were forced to accept gangsta rap/drill em masse. You can't have it both ways

Do these labels see a convenience in selling the ignorant shyt while it's popular? Of course they do but they didn't make it popular the streets(community) did. Y'all can't dance around this