Jermaine Dupri Admits The South was too Dumb to Understand Nas

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Nas only has one classic or really dope record on his album with a big artist and that’s if I ruled...

He lack chemistry when he in control of the content

correct me if I’m wrong

Edit: add Hate me now

Project Windows feat. Ron Isley

Favor For a Favor feat. Scarface

You Won't See Me Tonight feat. Aaliyah

No One Else In The Room feat. Maxwell

Hustlers feat. Game

Still Dreaming feat. Kanye

Black Republicans feat. Jay Z

Cherry Wine feat. Amy Winehouse

Car 85 feat. Charlie Wilson

^^^ this is off the top of my head
 

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Project Windows feat. Ron Isley

Favor For a Favor feat. Scarface

You Won't See Me Tonight feat. Aaliyah

No One Else In The Room feat. Maxwell

Hustlers feat. Game

Still Dreaming feat. Kanye

Black Republicans feat. Jay Z

Cherry Wine feat. Amy Winehouse

Car 85 feat. Charlie Wilson

^^^ this is off the top of my head
None are hits

but I would PW is a classic nas record
 

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You didn't say anything about hits. You said "really dope" or "classic".
None of them are classic tho

well PW probably is and that’s it.

nas has done records wit

Aaliyah
Alicia keys
Swizz Beats
Jay Z
Rick Ross
Scarface
Kanye
DMX (scorching X)
Mary J
Amy Winehouse (couldn’t even get the death stimulus)
Maxwell
Miguel
Kelis (couldn’t the wifey stimulus)

I’m sorry but how couldn’t he make a hit or a song with these A list people that reached out his fanbase is crazy to me.

I don’t get how is that possible
 

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None of them are classic tho

well PW probably is and that’s it.

nas has done records wit

Aaliyah
Alicia keys
Swizz Beats
Jay Z
Rick Ross
Scarface
Kanye
DMX (scorching X)
Mary J
Amy Winehouse (couldn’t even get the death stimulus)
Maxwell
Miguel
Kelis (couldn’t the wifey stimulus)

I’m sorry but how couldn’t he make a hit or a song with these A list people that reached out his fanbase is crazy to me.

I don’t get how is that possible

Still moving goal posts I see. You also mentioned "really dope". Aside from "Cherry Wine", none of the songs he did with those artists were ever singles. And LOL at wife stimulus. Kelis was never a big artist by any stretch of the imagination. Great artist, but she has one gold album and she had the biggest production duo at the time helping her albums.
 

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like nas never attempted to make party music :stopitslime:

Dude went thru a whole period in his career where he was openly criticized for it... I don't know why his fanatics act like this never happened.

I fukk with Nas all day, but I get it. He's not the guy you put on when you're just tryin' to have a good time. His hit/miss record with those kinda songs is heavy in the "miss" column and light on the "hit" side. One of my favorite Nas joints is "Made You Look" for the fact that he relaxed on that shyt and that song FELT like an old school party record. It was 2002 with an '87-type vibe and a new feel at the same time. He somehow captured it for that song and it's one of his best. He pulls off a dope party joint every now and then... but it ain't his forte. And then there's his beat choices... sometimes, it's just... eh.

Don't get me wrong, I bought Illmatic the third day it was out and played that shyt three times a day ON AVERAGE for weeks, but it ain't the 'jam' album. When it was time for that, I was throwin' on Doggystyle or even a good amount of Ready To Die... it's not the only thing important in hip-hop but it IS important.
 
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Dude went thru a whole period in his career where he was openly criticized for it... I don't know why his fanatics act like this never happened.

I fukk with Nas all day, but I get it. He's not the guy you put on when you're just tryin' to have a good time. His hit/miss record with those kinda songs is heavy in the "miss" column and light on the "hit" side. One of my favorite Nas joints is "Made You Look" for the fact that he relaxed on that shyt and that song FELT like an old school party record. He pulls it off every now and then, even now... but it ain't his forte. And then there's his beat choices... sometimes, it's just... eh.

Don't get me wrong, I bought Illmatic the third day it was out and played that shyt three times a day ON AVERAGE for weeks, but it ain't the 'jam' album. When it was time for that, I was throwin' on Doggystyle or even a good amount of Ready To Die... it's not the only thing important in hip-hop but it IS important.

Same here.

I copped Illmatic the first day it came out. And to this day, "The World Is Yours" is probably still my favorite Nas track. But that's the zone he's best in. There are certain MC's who can do it all. BIG comes to mind, and a few others. They can make any kinda track and cook up a classic. Nas kinda always had a hard time making those party records. That's not his thing, and when he tries to do it, it always seems forced. I honestly think that's one of the things he's always lacked.

Dudes like Rakim and Kane could do every kinda track. Street joints, but also party jams that never played out. You need those in the stash.
 

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Still moving goal posts I see. You also mentioned "really dope". Aside from "Cherry Wine", none of the songs he did with those artists were ever singles. And LOL at wife stimulus. Kelis was never a big artist by any stretch of the imagination. Great artist, but she has one gold album and she had the biggest production duo at the time helping her albums.


Why you even goin back and forth with him.. he’s a well known undercover Stan/Troll who’s in every Nas thread
 

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Same here.

I copped Illmatic the first day it came out. And to this day, "The World Is Yours" is probably still my favorite Nas track. But that's the zone he's best in. There are certain MC's who can do it all. BIG comes to mind, and a few others. They can make any kinda track and cook up a classic. Nas kinda always had a hard time making those party records. That's not his thing, and when he tries to do it, it always seems forced. I honestly think that's one of the things he's always lacked.

Dudes like Rakim and Kane could do every kinda track. Street joints, but also party jams that never played out. You need those in the stash
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It's a personality thing, Nas comes off as cold and shy..very reserved.
So someone like that is never really the life of the party :yeshrug:

Hence the reason why his party songs seem forced..like forcing a shy kid to dance in front of everybody at the reunion :mjlol:
 

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It's a personality thing, Nas comes off as cold and shy..very reserved.
So someone like that is never really the life of the party :yeshrug:

Hence the reason why his party songs seem forced..like forcing a shy kid to dance in front of everybody at the reunion :mjlol:

That's exactly what it seems like. LOL!!

Large Professor said that Nas was always "the shy quiet kid who just blended in", but once he got in the booth he was someone else. He's a reserved dude, he's not going to make convincing party tracks. It's not who he is. I went to a lot of his earlier shows, and he would kinda just rock from side to side and rap. Later on, someone must've told him to have more energy because he started dancing and running back and forth onstage, and it just didn't seem like a natural thing for him, lol.
 

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That's exactly what it seems like. LOL!!

Large Professor said that Nas was always "the shy quiet kid who just blended in", but once he got in the booth he was someone else. He's a reserved dude, he's not going to make convincing party tracks. It's not who he is. I went to a lot of his earlier shows, and he would kinda just rock from side to side and rap. Later on, someone must've told him to have more energy because he started dancing and running back and forth onstage, and it just didn't seem like a natural thing for him, lol.

:mjcry:

The shy introvert's reading this aren't laughing breh.. even prancing about in front of people takes balls of steel to do..
 

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The South is "dumb" yet Goodie Mob prophesied the current era we are living in to the most minute detail on "Cell Therapy" almost exactly 25 years ago.

I'm not from the South. I'm from Cali but been living in the East Coast a long time and I am actually old enough to remember the 90's. No one outside of NYC was checking for Gnause in 94'. The record sales for Illmatic speak volumes. And back in the 90's outside of NY, you had to go to the record store and buy a real copy. Illmatic was NY centric as hell of course no one outside of NY was really fukking with it in the era where Cali rap dominated. The only reason Biggie blew up is because of the heavy sonic and stylistic West Coast influence on Ready to Die. "Big Poppa" was some Bay Area player shyt and "Juicy" was a G-Funk track by definition. Even Puffy admitted he wanted to make an East Coast version of the Chronic with Ready to Die.

People always looked at Nas as a good rapper in the 90's but no one was saying he was the greatest. Especially not when Pac and Big were alive.

Nobody was saying Gnause was goat until after "Ether" dropped in 2001. That's when Illmatic finally went Plat damn near a decade after it came out. Because after Pac and Biggie had died, that left a lot less competition for Gnause and Jay. Pac went at Gnause and Jay throats. Pac made Gnause cry with his disses.

And if we are being honest, there were classics dropping every week in the early to mid 90's mainstream and underground. Gnause music was no better or worse than any of his contemporaries at the time. Just because that pancake face Korean bytch Miss Info gave Illmatic 5 Mics back in 94' while being a music critic at the Source doesn't mean anything. If anything, Gnause style is heavily indebted to those who came before him (i.e. Kool G Rap, Rakim, Gang Starr).
:what: nikka Nas was one of the biggest rappers while Pac and Biggie was still alive and honestly speak for yourself. No one was calling ANY of these nikkas the GOAT while they was alive so fukk is u sayin? Yea a bunch of shyt was dropping and nikkas was just appreciating it. But all this greatest shyt ain’t happen until after Pac and Biggie died. There’s a reason Jay had that line back in 97. nikkas definitely did look at Nas as one of the best in the game. Pac did and so did Biggie.
 

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That's exactly what it seems like. LOL!!

Large Professor said that Nas was always "the shy quiet kid who just blended in", but once he got in the booth he was someone else. He's a reserved dude, he's not going to make convincing party tracks. It's not who he is. I went to a lot of his earlier shows, and he would kinda just rock from side to side and rap. Later on, someone must've told him to have more energy because he started dancing and running back and forth onstage, and it just didn't seem like a natural thing for him, lol.
I actually have video proof back in 94 and 95 that this is bullshyt. Nas did have energy on stage. Matter fact I was at the show where he announced that Pac died. So.. also. Yea he wasn’t the greatest performer then but neither was nikkas like Jay at the top of his career for his biggest selling album. Did u go to the Hard Knock Life tour? The shyt u accusing Nas of. Jay was doing. Best performers back then was cats like Busta Rhymes, DMX, Redman and Methodman, Bad Boy artists, etc etc.
 
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