Jim Brown "Young Black Men Terrorizing Their Community"

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so if you put 10 kids in a upper middleclass setting and 10 in the ghetto you expect the same number from each background to stay on the straight and narrow?:jbhmm:

Nobody is safe regardless of Class.

your upper middle class kids find entertainment in the struggles low income kids didnt ask to be in, so in turn they choose to adopt the same destructive acts. You have upper middle class parents who think they did their part by getting a good job and moving their kids to the burbs yet failing to lay down law and teach their kids on the beast known as white supremacy. These upper middle class parents are the ones who really talk that "well if you just go to college and pull ya pants up cops won't kill ya" BS which is just as destructive as the hood rat female popping out babies with every dusty dude in the hood, both are creating children unprepared to defend themselves against white supremacy.
 

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Actually i think black men take criticism very well considering it's heaped on us on a constant basis by black men, black women & white people alike. White people and black women are another story tho (No diss)

criticism is "heaped" on Black women just as much as it's heaped on Black men, just look at the way Black men here on the coli discuss Black women, it's nothing short of disgusting.
 
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I'm black. Have proved it multiple times.

We're the only group of people who cant live among our own kind because of the crime rates found in most BC's. That's ridiculous, embarrassing and shameful. I live in a so called "black suburb" and there were gunshots in my neighborhood today. There needs to be a purge. I dont give a f*ck about any excuses for this behavior. My father is from one of the worst ghettos in the country. Lost his parents as a kid. Grew up dirt poor. Used to run with savages. Still made it out and became a law abiding citizen and I dont eem get along with dude like that but I give credit where credit is due. I know many other black people with stories similar to his. The excuses need to end.
"your kind" is black

just some backseat hating ass maladjusted dorks looking at every other race with rose colored glasses filled with nothing but parroted empty anti-black sentiments trickled down from cacs because of the shame you have from being black
 

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criticism is "heaped" on Black women just as much as it's heaped on Black men, just look at the way Black men here on the coli discuss Black women, it's nothing short of disgusting.
The idiotic criticism goes both ways between black men and women. Everyone is trying to debate on how they THINK things should be. Neither sides are right because in America there has never been a period where there was a correct structure of Male and Female relations. People can only give examples of "one off" scenarios which are poor examples because it is a situational case and not universal cases, thus it can not be spoken on like it is law.
 

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Not gonna disrespect Jim Brown (which is exactly what the op wants me to do). But let's stop with the idea that black on black crime is not a direct affect of white supremacy. As long as drugs and guns are pumped into our community education sucks, we will always be at a disadvantage.
 
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The idiotic criticism goes both ways between black men and women. Everyone is trying to debate on how they THINK things should be. Neither sides are right because in America there has never been a period where there was a correct structure of Male and Female relations. People can only give examples of "one off" scenarios which are poor examples because it is a situational case and not universal cases, thus it can not be spoken on like it is law.
The difference is that black women talk about, acknowledge and validate our issues, as black men, with concern. Whereas too many of us invalidate theirs. You see it all the time here.
 

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The difference is that black women talk about, acknowledge and validate our issues, as black men, with concern. Where as too many of us invalidate theirs. You see it all the time here.

The Coli is a cesspool of people pretending to be things they are not, I`m talking about real life.
 

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He's keeping it 100, but people don't wanna hear that. They wanna hear why it's not the young men's fault. White people don't care about us, that shyt has to be understood and moved on from. Blaming them for all our troubles isn't doing any good, we've gotta sort out own shyt out.

It's fukked up, though. I meet brothers from over there down here, and they all say it's easier to make it here in their chosen fields :dahell:
Black men and women fostering a sense of solidarity among each other and hands on rebuilding minds of the black populace and subsequently the black community is obviously the only answer. But i don't think blacks should carry any blame or guilt for our current state. I used to, peep my very first comments on this site (Where most of my negs come from) but i grew and learned more.

When people lambaste blacks and in particularly black men for the community being in shambles it's essentially them saying "You're not cleaning up other people's mess fast enough" all the while pushing initiatives that create more work for us to clean and a more volatile community to clean up or turning a blind to these initiatives being pushed.
 

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Nobody is safe regardless of Class.

your upper middle class kids find entertainment in the struggles low income kids didnt ask to be in, so in turn they choose to adopt the same destructive acts. You have upper middle class parents who think they did their part by getting a good job and moving their kids to the burbs yet failing to lay down law and teach their kids on the beast known as white supremacy. These upper middle class parents are the ones who really talk that "well if you just go to college and pull ya pants up cops won't kill ya" BS which is just as destructive as the hood rat female popping out babies with every dusty dude in the hood, both are creating children unprepared to defend themselves against white supremacy.
that wasnt even my point. he tried to put it all down to the individual like environment has no impact on people. that doesnt mean people from wealthier backgrounds cant fall to the wayside but they have way less obstacles to hurdle on the path to success.

why would anybody be surprised at people with broken home lives, poor education, and dangerous surroundings doing worse then people who dont have all that holding them back?
 

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"your kind" is black

just some backseat hating ass maladjusted dorks looking at every other race with rose colored glasses filled with nothing but parroted empty anti-black sentiments trickled down from cacs because of the shame you have from being black
This race is f*cked up from the top down

No amount of militant cliches is going to change that nor is it going to change the fact that we're a laughing stock. I am ashamed for good reason. We all should be.
 

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criticism is "heaped" on Black women just as much as it's heaped on Black men, just look at the way Black men here on the coli discuss Black women, it's nothing short of disgusting.
"sigh" I just got into a discussion like this couple days ago and no matter what i said it was like talking to a brick wall. I'm not doing that again so let's agree to disagree.
 

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The thing is these kids are not coming out the womb evil. They are being corrupted by their environment. People always want to address the branches but the tree never dies because the root is never addressed. You kill the root, and the branches, trunk and leaves all die. Not vice versa. To just say that black kids are killing black kids is a oversimplified obvious observation. WHY are black kids killing each other? Why are they out on the street? Why is there financial incentives for black families to be divided? Why have the wounds from slavery never been addressed? Why are the kids unsupervised? Where did the gun and the dope COME FROM? These questions need to be asked. Just stating the obvious is not working! White Supremacy, lack of parenting, proliferation of guns, lack of jobs, designed ghettos, industrial prison complexes, etc need to be addressed and spoke about ad nauseum.
 
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