Jimbo Fisher to LSU thread

[The_Sheff]

I just don't buy the logic that a coach isn't going to take a job because you're in the same conference/division as a coach & program that is the GOAT. If I'm looking for a job im taking the job because of what I'm going to do, I'm not worried about the next man I don't care who it is



No

Do you understand how difficult it is to get into Tech? Ask @iamstr8fire @Mr Hate Coffee @The_Sheff @Rekkapryde about it. You're talking about when you've already been accepted and choosing a major, Tech isn't lowering their academic standards for football or any athletics. Tech academically is like Vanderbilt, Duke or Stanford. UGA is the big state school where you don't even need a 3.0 to get in. So no adding one major is not going to even the playing field in terms of recruiting in Georgia

Stanford is difficult to get in to so is Duke, etc.... for normal students. The difference between those schools and GT is that they have liberal arts programs to "hide" athletes in while the rest of the student body is taking the hard shyt. At GT there is no major you can hide someone in because all the majors require Calculus and lab sciences. If we could hide students in some BS majors there is no reason to believe we couldnt compete better.

Do you really believe the basketball players at Duke are competing academically with the regular student body?

Do you know how difficult it is for a regular student to get into USC or UCLA?

@Rekkapryde is correct, what sense does it make that GT cant add majors because the BoR says it would create redundancy yet UGA can add an engineering program and whatever else they want.

 

[AVXL]

Stanford is difficult to get in to so is Duke, etc.... for normal students. The difference between those schools and GT is that they have liberal arts programs to "hide" athletes in while the rest of the student body is taking the hard shyt. At GT there is no major you can hide someone in because all the majors require Calculus and lab sciences. If we could hide students in some BS majors there is no reason to believe we couldnt compete better.

Do you really believe the basketball players at Duke are competing academically with the regular student body?

My point is getting into Tech isn't going to be easy to begin with for your average elite prep athlete...

 

[The_Sheff]

My point is getting into Tech isn't going to be easy to begin with for your average elite prep athlete...

Bruh, im trying to tell you that the athletes arent accepted under the same parameters as the regular student body. USC has a 17% acceptance rate, do you honestly believe those football players there had a better academic resume than the 83% that werent accepted? Oh and for the record, GT has a 25% acceptance rate! The problem with GT is that even if you give athletes special exemptions (which O'Leary and Cremins were very fond of doing, big ups to Marbury), the athletes will struggle due to how difficult the course work is for EVERY major.

 

[Rekkapryde]

But breh the average 5, 4 star recruit is not going to have grades and SAT scores good enough to get in Tech even with adding majors. Even more so than that breh wants to talk about recruiting against UGA, if you're recruiting against UGA that also means you're recruiting against Bama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Clemson, South Carolina, etc. I don't see Tech winning in recruiting against those schools either

The average cat absolutely not. But there are those who are capable of getting in that goto the Stanfords etc and take up majors there that we simply do not offer. Those are the ones that we have to lock down and get a better chance of getting by having options other than Engineering and Management

 

[Rekkapryde]

Bruh, im trying to tell you that the athletes arent accepted under the same parameters as the regular student body. USC has a 17% acceptance rate, do you honestly believe those football players there had a better academic resume than the 83% that wasnt accepted? The problem with GT is that even if you give athletes special exemptions (which O'Leary and Cremins were very fond of doing, big ups to Marbury), the athletes will struggle due to how difficult the course work is for EVERY major.

Church.

 

[The ADD]

That's not true, they absolutely do care, but they know how it is at the school. We have very limited majors in anything other than the various engineering disciplines. Outside of that, you really only have Management which is what cats who can't make it in engineering change their major to. So you know that isn't gonna be easy since you have a lot of former engineering majors in it. Adding more majors would definitely help. Dunno why we don't have at least a communications program, esp being in the center of fukkin Atlanta. shyt makes no fukkin sense.

If they care where is $. Seems like a lot of the money goes out to the West Coast and doesn't filter back to the GTAA.


Arguing about the academics is a waste of time. That element isn't going to change and if it did they missed the window to take advantage.

 

[Rekkapryde]

If they care where is $. Seems like a lot of the money goes out to the West Coast and doesn't filter back to the GTAA.

You see our endowment. That's where the money is going. Almost double UGA's.

Issue is that the GTAA fund is separate from the Alumni Endowment. But all the money in the world won't solve the issue of lack of majors and the academic requirements for all students. Athletes absolutely do get exceptions but they still have to be able to pass their classes.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

This thread went left rightfully so Jimbo not coming to LSU

 

[AVXL]

If they care where is $. Seems like a lot of the money goes out to the West Coast and doesn't filter back to the GTAA.

There is a lack of passion from GT to build an athletics program that wants to compete for championships. They're content winning 8 games a year and beating us twice every decade (if that). Let's say Tech did add majors to hide athletes once they get into the school, is Tech willing to recruit against the college football powers I listed to get athletes? There's gotta be a commitment from Tech to be a great athletic department and it doesn't exist there

 

[The ADD]

There is a lack of passion from GT to build an athletics program that wants to compete for championships. They're content winning 8 games a year and beating us twice every decade (if that). Let's say Tech did add majors to hide athletes once they get into the school, is Tech willing to recruit against the college football powers I listed to get athletes? There's gotta be a commitment from Tech to be a great athletic department and it doesn't exist there

Ultimately that commitment is driven by the $. They old guard that keep the GTAA is much older and not as committed (IMO) which speaks to your point.

 

[Big Boss]

But breh the average 5, 4 star recruit is not going to have grades and SAT scores good enough to get in Tech even with adding majors. Even more so than that breh wants to talk about recruiting against UGA, if you're recruiting against UGA that also means you're recruiting against Bama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Clemson, South Carolina, etc. I don't see Tech winning in recruiting against those schools either

True they worry more about athletics than academics

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

There is a lack of passion from GT to build an athletics program that wants to compete for championships. They're content winning 8 games a year and beating us twice every decade (if that). Let's say Tech did add majors to hide athletes once they get into the school, is Tech willing to recruit against the college football powers I listed to get athletes? There's gotta be a commitment from Tech to be a great athletic department and it doesn't exist there

So how do they get basketball recruits like Chris Bosh, Jaravis Critteton(SP), and Thad Young?

 

[The ADD]

So how do they get basketball recruits like Chris Bosh, Jaravis Critteton(SP), and Thad Young?

Those got make through like half a semester

 

[Tide Run This]

So Herman is the guy now?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Ultimately that commitment is driven by the $. They old guard that keep the GTAA is much older and not as committed (IMO) which speaks to your point.

Can't be Harvard during the week and Bama on saturdays. The old guard wants that, as does some of the younger demographic, but that's damn near impossible without academic concessions.

Not only do we need to add more majors but to be even more competitive we'd have to remove the mandatory calculus and lab sciences. Adding more majors is the first hurdle absolutely but that's a pipe dream considering the board of regents. What's sad is that the second hurdle of removing the mandatory calculus and lab science would be even more difficult