Joe Biden wasn't good for the down-ballot

[God Almighty]

pathetic thread

Well, the subject Matter is Joe "Credibly Accused of Sexual Assault" Biden, so that's par for the course.

He couldn't find any on Joe either.

I'm surprised he didn't bring up Joe's sexual assault accuser. He probably forgot about her since the media pretended she didn't exist.

How many Kanye smileys will we have in this post? How about one more.

 

[88m3]

@God Almighty you're probably sad Trump lost

 

[MoneyTron]

I'm surprised he didn't bring up Joe's sexual assault accuser. He probably forgot about her since the media pretended she didn't exist.

That had nothing to do with him withholding aid to Ukraine. You're trying to change the subject.

Bottom line, Trump abused the office of the presidency to try to stop Joe from running and no one else.

 

[Mission249]

One of his only other selling points was that black and Latin voters would prefer a moderate. They did not. Trump gained support from those groups since 2016.

Your analysis is premature. Large numbers of new voters cast first time votes. We have no idea the previous leanings of that increased population. Comparing a percentage decrease between two different population sizes is specious reasoning.

At this point, for all we know, a large number of previously sidelined black conservatives could of casted their first vote because of effective branding around "taxes" bad, "socialism" bad, "defund the police" bad, "platinum plan" good.

Biden will eat the blame for the economic downturn and mass virus death, and Democrats will lose very, very badly in the 2022 midterms

This was going to happen regardless. Democratic presidents have been inheriting and taking the blame for Republican presidential disasters for the longest. Their only hope is to get the Senate, cement some real changes, then take their upcoming L when the country swings back to foolishness.

 

[paperbag]

Biden's responsible for Cal Cunningham being unable to put a hold on cheating on his wife for a few months?

Biden's responsible for RBG dying and giving Susan Collins an out to be able to vote against Coney-Barrett and "redeem" herself in pathetic Maine voter's eyes?

Make it make sense

 

[Mission249]

I'm a fan of progressive, "quasi-socialist" policies myself but she needs to be real careful with this "racial resentment" point. I had to read multiple blog posts and Twitter threads myself, before I turned around and agreed with a nuanced view of "defund the police". Most people don't have the time or want to do that shyt.

65% of blacks alone in DC were like "nah, don't defund the police": Black Americans Want Police to Retain Local Presence

At some point you gotta just take the L, realize that most people don't know wtf you mean by "defund the police", and rebrand.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

All I know is centrists are spineless and got smacked all over, while progressives are making in roads by winning the majority of their contests.

Are they winning in moderate, swing or conservative districts? Real question I don’t follow senate races

 

[wtfyomom]

People underestimated Trump's appeal. Biden still did better than any of the other people from the primary would've. I think any other candidate would've lost to Trump

wrong, anyone wouldve beaten trump especially offering something tangible, and joe biden wouldve gotten landslided if not for covid, he was the worst of all the candidates easily. all the serious candidates at least

 

[wtfyomom]

i hate the bernie couldnt beat biden but wouldve beaten trump, lets just dismiss all the fukkery that went on right? who could beat biden when their own party was calling them a nazi? foh biden was trash and it showed. yall centrists barely beat a clown in the midst of a pandemic with 230k dead and rapidly rising, youre party is trash, when are you gonna come to grips people hate democrats? they will vote for all progressive things like 15 dollar minimum wage in FL or all the drug legalization etc, but they hate your trash party. and anyone that people like yall shyt on like aoc /bernie etc

 

[A.R.$]

So your theory is that black and latinx people voted for Trump because Biden isn't progressive enough? I'm not connecting the dots here

In a way yes. His tough on drug pushes in the 80s him working with human garbage like Strom Thurmond and his support for the 94 Crime Bill turned off a lot of Black voters.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Explain why Bernie won the first three states in the primaries if nobody likes him.

Not to mention the fact that most voters were saying "I'm settling for Biden." Likeability wasn't a factor. Trump was.

LET IT GO.

HE LOST...IN THE FIRST ROUND.

DEMS JUST WON THE FINALS AND YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ROUND. NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY THE PEOPLE CHOSE BIDEN OVER BERNIE. GET THE HELL OVER IT. ALL YALL

 

[Ozymandeas]

Bernie couldn’t beat Biden but he was supposed to beat Trump. People in Georgia and Arizona are not voting for Bernie. Pennsylvania either. Biden barely snatched the state away from Trump and that’s only because he’s from there. Coal miners and steel workers are not voting for Bernie. They would’ve went Trump. Black people did not fukk with Bernie like that either, he lost the primaries the moment South Carolina came into the picture and black people were the driving force this election

The argument is straight nonsense. The Moderate Democrats were meanies to Bernie The DNC were meanies They all conspired against him If you couldn’t handle what Biden did to you in the primaries and HE WAS PLAYING FAIR POLITICS what were you going to do with Trump and the Republicans who would’ve played dirty from day one

 

[A.R.$]

Let’s hope that the next Dem nominee is someone who is acceptable to both progressives and centrist. Kamala is not the answer.

 

[Cave Savage]

i hate the bernie couldnt beat biden but wouldve beaten trump, lets just dismiss all the fukkery that went on right? who could beat biden when their own party was calling them a nazi? foh biden was trash and it showed. yall centrists barely beat a clown in the midst of a pandemic with 230k dead and rapidly rising, youre party is trash, when are you gonna come to grips people hate democrats? they will vote for all progressive things like 15 dollar minimum wage in FL or all the drug legalization etc, but they hate your trash party. and anyone that people like yall shyt on like aoc /bernie etc

Biden in 2020 is not a centrist, he adopted most of the progressive left's platforn. Do you think a centrist would advocate for doubling the mininum wage and taxing the low end of wealthy at 60%?

And your point about 15 dollar minimum wage and the like is silly. Younger conservatives are usually in favor of legal marijuana, it doesn't mean that they agree with the Dems on social issues pertaining to race, LGBT, and immigration.

I know rednecks who smoke tons of weed but love Trump and hate Democrats. It's not 1968 anymore.

 

[wtfyomom]

Biden in 2020 is not a centrist, he adopted most of the progressive left's platforn. Do you think a centrist would advocate for doubling the mininum wage and taxing the low end of wealthy at 60%?

And your point about 15 dollar minimum wage and the like is silly. Younger conservatives are usually in favor of legal marijuana, it doesn't mean that they agree with the Dems on social issues pertaining to race, LGBT, and immigration.

I know rednecks who smoke tons of weed but love Trump and hate Democrats. It's not 1968 anymore.

lmao so 15 minimum wage and a higher marginal tax rate is super progressive? which hes not even gonna do probably. you think people dont want healthcare? Biden is the furthest right democrat theyve run in my lifetime and its not close and im 40. but hes not even a centrist to you supposedly ? lmao. am i talking to a fox news viewer cause thats how you sound?

adopted MOST of the platform?!?! in what universe? hes against M4A against GND, against legal weed, against free education or canceling student debt, etc etc the list goes on, big fukkin deal he wants to raise taxes to not even pre trump levels. and raising the minimum wage which hasnt been raised in over a decade, wow super super progressive. he adopted all the policies. hes practically a communist gtfoh