Joe Biden wasn't good for the down-ballot

[wtfyomom]

Let’s hope that the next Dem nominee is someone who is acceptable to both progressives and centrist. Kamala is not the answer.

do you have any thoughts? I feel like its gonna be between Cuomo, Newsom and Kamala. IDK enough about Newsom total record yet, but he seems like hes in bed with big tech , Cuomo is no progressive either, being in NY im more familiar., yeah weve gotten some decent policies through but Cuomo was forced essentially. and he had his "independent democrats" here for a while voting with republicans on everything until they got voted out the last time Cuomo was elected. but dude was trying to cut medicaid in the pandemic on the low

 

[wtfyomom]

America is so trash when even "centrists" think moderatly left polices are too far left. Unless your advocating for a planned economy and nationalizing all business i dont want to hear the words "far left" foh, see this is what electing someone like Biden as your nominee does. now hes the furthest left you can go. I also think liberals just really really really dont want to pay taxes either but they just dont want to say it

 

[wtfyomom]

That had nothing to do with him withholding aid to Ukraine. You're trying to change the subject.

Bottom line, Trump abused the office of the presidency to try to stop Joe from running and no one else.

yes trrump was soooo scared of Biden, lmao do you guys not get biden only won cause of covid. which trump didnt know about at the time. nobody was scared of biden. there was no dirt on bernie to get either. hes not a corrupt pos like biden

 

[wtfyomom]

Bernie couldn’t beat Biden but he was supposed to beat Trump. People in Georgia and Arizona are not voting for Bernie. Pennsylvania either. Biden barely snatched the state away from Trump and that’s only because he’s from there. Coal miners and steel workers are not voting for Bernie. They would’ve went Trump. Black people did not fukk with Bernie like that either, he lost the primaries the moment South Carolina came into the picture and black people were the driving force this election

The argument is straight nonsense. The Moderate Democrats were meanies to Bernie The DNC were meanies They all conspired against him If you couldn’t handle what Biden did to you in the primaries and HE WAS PLAYING FAIR POLITICS what were you going to do with Trump and the Republicans who would’ve played dirty from day one

so like 300k black people in the deep south means black people didnt like Bernie? man please with your narratives. you cant win when your OWN PARTY is calling you a nazi. how is that fair ? whatever man you guys enjoy Biden, Im sure the country will improve tomorrow.

 

[Uno]

Before Election: Only Joe could have blown out Trump and got us the Senate After Election: Only Joe could have beat Trump anyone else would have lost

 

[brick james]

so like 300k black people in the deep south means black people didnt like Bernie? man please with your narratives. you cant win when your OWN PARTY is calling you a nazi. how is that fair ? whatever man you guys enjoy Biden, Im sure the country will improve tomorrow.

What about black people in Michigan? They handed Biden the state in the primary and the general. Bernie barely beat Hillary there by a point and lost to her in PA.

 

[wtfyomom]

What about black people in Michigan? They handed Biden the state in the primary and the general. Bernie barely beat Hillary there by a point and lost to her in PA.

Primary was over after Super Tuesday , everyone just voted for Biden , Bernie won Cali so any talk of him not being diverse is complete bullshyt

somehow winning Cali is less important than a handful of Deep South states with like a few million people each living in them , the truth is the south also pulls the Democratic primary to the right it isn’t just the general

 

[Outlaw]

It’s easy to say Bernie would have did this and that in this mythical hypothetical scenario. What actually happened is that Biden best Bernie handedly. Biden barely best Trump despite having momentum on his side. I seriously doubt Bernie could have beat Trump when Biden barely did. Bernie could have won in 2016 but I seriously doubt he could have pulled it out in 2020.

I voted for Bernie in the primary but I’m just keeping it real. Bernie would have ran up the score in liberal enclaves like Cali and NY but I doubt he could have flipped GA, AZ and WI.

 

[Oville]

It’s easy to say Bernie would have did this and that in this mythical hypothetical scenario. What actually happened is that Biden best Bernie handedly. Biden barely best Trump despite having momentum on his side. I seriously doubt Bernie could have beat Trump when Biden barely did. Bernie could have won in 2016 but I seriously doubt he could have pulled it out in 2020.

I voted for Bernie in the primary but I’m just keeping it real. Bernie would have ran up the score in liberal enclaves like Cali and NY but I doubt he could have flipped GA, AZ and WI.

Arizons has a big independent streak and a large Latino base which Bernie did well with. Wisconsin is a labor, blue collar town which Bernie's message woulda resonated with.

Biden won because Obama made a call to all the other candidates signaling to voters that Joe wanted go beat Trump which was all Democrats caref about at that point. Once the tide turned, Bernie did nothing to put an aggressive fight against Biden.

 

[Outlaw]

Arizons has a big independent streak and a large Latino base which Bernie did well with. Wisconsin is a labor, blue collar town which Bernie's message woulda resonated with.

Biden won because Obama made a call to all the other candidates signaling to voters that Joe wanted go beat Trump which was all Democrats caref about at that point. Once the tide turned, Bernie did nothing to put an aggressive fight against Biden.

The moderate vote was split, just because the dem base was left with two choices does not mean it was nefarious. Bernie still could have best Biden 1 on 1 if he was the candidate of choice for the majority of the Democratic Party.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Looks like OP is wrong. Biden did help the down ballot. It also just turned out more republicans too and so swing candidates lost

 

[A.R.$]

do you have any thoughts? I feel like its gonna be between Cuomo, Newsom and Kamala. IDK enough about Newsom total record yet, but he seems like hes in bed with big tech , Cuomo is no progressive either, being in NY im more familiar., yeah weve gotten some decent policies through but Cuomo was forced essentially. and he had his "independent democrats" here for a while voting with republicans on everything until they got voted out the last time Cuomo was elected. but dude was trying to cut medicaid in the pandemic on the low

I agree with everything you said. Out of the three you mentioned I would go with Newsom. He is the least problematic out of those three choices. I’m hoping someone else emerges in the next three years.

 

[Pressure]

I'm sure this is actually the result Biden wanted. Gives him an excuse to not do anything, I only expect massive police budgets moving forward.

 

[the cac mamba]

bernie wasnt good for the downballot and he wasnt even on the ticket

 

[No1]

I agree with everything you said. Out of the three you mentioned I would go with Newsom. He is the least problematic out of those three choices. I’m hoping someone else emerges in the next three years.

I actually have no idea who it will be but I prefer Newsom out of those 3. I would say to not count out some centrist person with a lot of money behind them. I can see the Colorado senator who just won or the governor of North Carolina. I also wouldn’t discount Big Gretch.