Joe Biden’s brilliant critique of Medicare for all has made me rethink my position

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except i talked about size, numbers, and immigration numbers.

But your focus was on immigration and you basically said, "we're full" as part of your argument. The U.S. having 330M people is irrelevant to the conversation as M4A could cover all of those people. And be honest, you'd make the same argument if there were 30M people in the U.S. You think illegal immigration will break M4A or any type of universal healthcare.
 

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Biden speaking to his base. :ahh:

He won't let y'all accuse him of pandering for votes or being dishonest like they did to Hillary and he's still front running. :smugbiden:

Joe driving progressives mad by showing that the country might not be as far left as you've convinced yourselves over the past 3 years. :Legoderas:
 

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But your focus was on immigration and you basically said, "we're full" as part of your argument. The U.S. having 330M people is irrelevant to the conversation as M4A could cover all of those people. And be honest, you'd make the same argument if there were 30M people in the U.S. You think illegal immigration will break M4A or any type of universal healthcare.
US has 330 million. Japan has 126 million and they have single payer.

So it seems the cutoff in population for whether or not single payer can function is somewhere between 126 million and 330 million.

That and Mexicans.
 

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Biden speaking to his base. :ahh:

He won't let y'all accuse him of pandering for votes or being dishonest like they did to Hillary and he's still front running. :smugbiden:

Joe driving progressives mad by showing that the country might not be as far left as you've convinced yourselves over the past 3 years. :Legoderas:

I guess we have Pence 2024 to look forward to. :francis:
 

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Biden speaking to his base. :ahh:

He won't let y'all accuse him of pandering for votes or being dishonest like they did to Hillary and he's still front running. :smugbiden:

Joe driving progressives mad by showing that the country might not be as far left as you've convinced yourselves over the past 3 years. :Legoderas:

It's not even far left. The right-left window is shifted so far right in this country that giving healthcare to people is basically oppressive leftist ideoology according to people like you
 
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You accusing me of being conservative is hilarious. Should I point you to the political spectrum thread :russ:

Did you not call it far left? And my point was it's not far left? Do i need to explain it more?

Regardless of your political stance you're using right wing tactics...i.e. making no sense and responding with non sequiturs. You're probably not as left as you think you are.
 

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No, Cac. We’re not doing logical fallacies. You made the assertion that savings garnered from implementing Medicare for all would be offset by the cost of providing services for illegal immigrants. Show us how you arrived at that conclusion with data.
sure, right after you quote me saying this :ehh:
 

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Did you not call it far left? And my point was it's not far left? Do i need to explain it more?
I did not. Read slower next time.

I said the country is not as far left as some progressives want to believe.

That is different than saying this country isn't far left as progressives want to believe.

:what:
 
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