Joe Budden ask Amerie about Beyonce stealing her producer and sound
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People are still running with this bs narrative lol.
Beyonce is responsible for every early 2000s female RnB artist failing.
steadyrighteous
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Which is why after Beyonce did Crazy in Love Amerie copied the style and did 1 Thing.
Or are we all just going to pretend that time is linear for everyone else but works in a different way when it comes to Beyonce?
O.T.I.S.
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Unless he’s an in-house producer, they usually go where the money goes unless the have some undying loyalty to an artist or something.
Beyonce was just the bigger name with the bigger wallet.
So it might’ve been more of his “sound” than it was their “style”. It could’ve been the DAWS he was using at the time, the sounds he had laying around, whatever other music influenced him at the time, the studio, the label, etc.
Idk much about Rich though. He could’ve just been making beats and Beyonce picked what she liked.
I don’t think it was anyones fault though. It just was what it was. Even if he was an in-house producer, they probably would’ve made him give Beyonce those beats.
O.T.I.S.
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Yeah after getting time to actually listen to the interview, I personally think that was HIS style at the time.
Thats it. From what she said, she fed off of him and he fed off of her to make the music they made for the first album.
Then he blew up . He wasn’t her actual, personal producer. She made it seem like he wasn’t even in-house. So he was freelancing? If so he can do whatever tf he wants. They barely talked outside of the studio according to her.
So all he did was similar shyt with others that he did with Amerie. There’s nothing to be upset about.
Anyone who has ever produced know you might even have 3-4 versions of the same song with different sounds/tempos/melodys/etc.
And the only common denominator is him. That wasn’t just her “sound”. It was his style.. like all of DJ Mustards shyt sounds the same. Thats his style
Thats it. From what she said, she fed off of him and he fed off of her to make the music they made for the first album.
Then he blew up
. He wasn’t her actual, personal producer. She made it seem like he wasn’t even in-house. So he was freelancing? If so he can do whatever tf he wants. They barely talked outside of the studio according to her.So all he did was similar shyt with others that he did with Amerie. There’s nothing to be upset about.
Anyone who has ever produced know you might even have 3-4 versions of the same song with different sounds/tempos/melodys/etc.
And the only common denominator is him. That wasn’t just her “sound”. It was his style.. like all of DJ Mustards shyt sounds the same. Thats his style
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Elim Garak
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"Picture Amerie eatin Rocsi"
No it wasn't
According to Rich no one liked the beat and thought Bey might bite because her debut single Work It Out had a similar vibe
He had to convince Bey and her team it would hit
He wrote the song after meeting with Bey and she added her own touches
Crazy In Love — Beyoncé’s hit began as a modest-selling 1970s soul single
The anthem has attracted some surprising covers, including by Snow Patrol and Antony & The Johnsonsig.ft.com
darealvelle
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I was thinking crazy in love might have been Amerie song first and Beyonce jacked it like jay z stole feeling it from camp lo. But the production Rich did for Amerie first album sounded nothing like crazy in love.
Unless he’s an in-house producer, they usually go where the money goes unless the have some undying loyalty to an artist or something.
Beyonce was just the bigger name with the bigger wallet.
So it might’ve been more of his “sound” than it was their “style”. It could’ve been the DAWS he was using at the time, the sounds he had laying around, whatever other music influenced him at the time, the studio, the label, etc.
Idk much about Rich though. He could’ve just been making beats and Beyonce picked what she liked.
I don’t think it was anyones fault though. It just was what it was. Even if he was an in-house producer, they probably would’ve made him give Beyonce those beats.
They were all signed to Columbia records
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He worked with Kelly Rowland first than Beyonce
Saying CIL was Amerie's sound as if she had any real input is being generous
Rich is the sole producer and writer on Amerie's first album
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O.T.I.S.
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Ok
Thats settles it even more for me.
He was probably directed to recreate the sound by the damn label, which wouldn’t be hard since it’s his style anyway.
Especially now that I know he worked with Kelly first. He probably developed the sound/style WITH Amerie but it wasn’t hers… shyt it probably wasn’t even his. It’s the labels at that point
Naw. She's saying SHE influenced the sound that everyone ended up liking him for. She would pick his hip hop beats over his RnB beats, saying she wanted the edgier sound. So, he went back to the drawing board, and together they came up with the sound that he would blow up off of.She was saying it in a subliminal way that you have to pick up on.
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Amerie:
Joe Budden:
so tell me about the montreal screw job
Joe Budden:
so tell me about the montreal screw job
She was saying it in a subliminal way that you have to pick up on.
Rich is the sole writer and producer in her first album
Wouldn't classify it as hip-hop soul or edgy
And the album isn't even platinum ...their biggest record together One Thing came out year after Crazy In Love
Mary, Mariah did the singing over hip-hop beats first and more successfully
Y'all giving the girl too much credit
She not even a good singer low key
