Joe Budden - Freedom Freestyle (HE GOES INNNNNNN!!!!!!)

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H.J.Duck said:
lmao.

after Padded Room?

I'd go with
Escape Route (REALLY poorly mixed though)
Mood Muzik 4 (4.5 for extra couple of songs)
All Love Lost (go with the deluxe version though, "Only Human" which was one of the best songs on Some Love Lost EP is on the deluxe verison)


you're right about Joe not rapping about these issues on this level before. a line or verse here & there but not full songs just focused on this.
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I added a few songs to my 4.5 from around that time like Ayo, OLS 1&2 (as one song) along with OLS 3, it's actually a really fukking dope stand along project and nearly as good as 4 imo.

The fact this never made it to a project...
 
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I wonder how big this thread would be without him recently talking about drake ON his podcast and inducing their beef. I'm not buying the notion of him having classic tapes. Because controversy is all that he's actually known for. No real musical moments of impact at all
 
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bigbadbossup2012 said:
I wonder how big this thread would be without him recently talking about drake ON his podcast and inducing their beef. I'm not buying the notion of him having classic tapes. Because controversy is all that he's actually known for. No real musical moments of impact at all
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Mood muzik 2 & 3 are classic tapes.
He's also known for being an incredible mc.
 
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bigbadbossup2012 said:
I wonder how big this thread would be without him recently talking about drake ON his podcast and inducing their beef. I'm not buying the notion of him having classic tapes. Because controversy is all that he's actually known for. No real musical moments of impact at all
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You're just showing your age...

I remember when Dumb Out hit the net:wow:
 
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Then what's wrong,why is he a non factor in hiphop,why did he never have his moment or a decent run of success?
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Define success..

Joe has carved out a niche for himself musically and has been doing this shyt since 03.. He's respected by his peers for his abilities.

For every Jay, Kendrick, and Nas there's 10 more dope nikkas that didn't quite pop off( Joe, Saigon, Jay Elect)

Doesn't make them any less dope, their careers just didn't take off.

If you were around during that time period, you'd remember how big Mood Muzik 2 was. It was right there with PE #1, Dipset Vol 4, Dedication 2 etc
 
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904 said:
Define success..

Joe has carved out a niche for himself musically and has been doing this shyt since 03.. He's respected by his peers for his abilities.

For every Jay, Kendrick, and Nas there's 10 more dope nikkas that didn't quite pop off( Joe, Saigon, Jay Elect)

Doesn't make them any less dope, their careers just didn't take off.

If you were around during that time period, you'd remember how big Mood Muzik 2 was. It was right there with PE #1, Dipset Vol 4, Dedication 2 etc
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If I was around? Wtf I was, he just ain't shyt,simple as that
 
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Success doesn't equal skill or respect. He didn't have the mainstream appeal but his other qualities are appreciated.
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excuses excuses,if you make multiple attempts at Mainstream, then you're a commercial artist. And will be judged as such. He's a failure for making weak joints
 
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excuses excuses,if you make multiple attempts at Mainstream, then you're a commercial artist. And will be judged as such. He's a failure for making weak joints
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Complete List of Names With Number of Platinum Albums
  1. 2 Live Crew - 1
  2. 2Pac - 11
  3. 50 Cent - 2
  4. 69 Boyz - 1
  5. 8Ball - 1 (No 8Ball & MJG album has gone platinum)
  6. Akon - 2
  7. A Tribe Called Quest - 3
  8. Arrested Development - 1
  9. B.G. - 1
  10. Beastie Boys - 7
  11. Big Pun - 1
  12. Big Tymers - 2
  13. Biggie - 4
  14. Black Eyed Peas - 3
  15. Black Rob - 1
  16. Bone Thugs - 6
  17. Bow Wow - 2
  18. Busta Rhymes - 5
  19. C-Murder - 1
  20. Cam’ron - 1
  21. Chamillionaire - 1
  22. Chingy - 2
  23. Coolio - 2
  24. Cypress Hill - 5
  25. D12 - 2
  26. DJ Clue? - 1
  27. DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince - 2 (Will Smith solo albums counted separately)
  28. DJ Magic Mike & Royal Posse - 1
  29. DJ Quik - 1
  30. DMX - 5
  31. Da Brat - 2
  32. Das EFX - 1
  33. De La Soul - 1
  34. Diddy & The Family - 2
  35. Digital Underground - 1
  36. Dr. Dre - 2
  37. Drake - 4
  38. E-40 - 1
  39. Eazy-E - 1
  40. Eminem - 8
  41. Eric B. & Rakim - 1
  42. Eve - 1
  43. Everlast - 1
  44. Fabolous - 2
  45. Fat Boys - 1
  46. Fat Joe - 1
  47. Foxy Brown - 2
  48. G-Unit - 1
  49. Game - 1
  50. Geto Boys - 1
  51. Ghostface - 1
  52. GZA - 1
  53. Heavy D & The Boyz - 3
  54. Hot Boys - 1
  55. House of Pain - 1
  56. ICP - 2
  57. Ice Cube - 5
  58. Ice-T - 1
  59. J. Cole - 1
  60. Ja Rule - 4
  61. Jay Z - 15 (Does not include his Collison CourseEP with Linkin Park which was an EP, not an album)
  62. Jermaine Dupri - 1
  63. Juvenile - 3
  64. Kanye West - 7
  65. Kendrick Lamar - 1
  66. Kid Rock - 1 (We did not count his more purely rock/country platinum albums)
  67. Kool Moe Dee - 1
  68. Krayzie Bone - 1
  69. Kriss Kross - 2
  70. Lauryn Hill - 1
  71. LL Cool J - 7
  72. Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz - 2
  73. Ying Yang Twins - 2
  74. Lil Wayne - 4
  75. Lil’ Flip - 2
  76. Lil’ Kim - 3
  77. Lil’ Troy - 1
  78. Lloyd Banks - 1
  79. Ludacris - 5
  80. Luniz - 1
  81. MC Hammer- 4
  82. Macklemore - 1
  83. Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch - 1
  84. Mase - 1
  85. Master P - 3
  86. Method Man - 4
  87. Mike Jones - 1
  88. Missy Elliott - 5
  89. Mo Thugs - 1
  90. Mobb Deep - 1
  91. Mystikal - 3
  92. N.W.A - 3
  93. Nappy Roots - 1
  94. Nas - 7
  95. Naughty By Nature - 2
  96. Nelly - 5
  97. Nicki Minaj - 2
  98. Onyx - 1
  99. OutKast - 7
  100. Paul Wall - 1
  101. Public Enemy - 3
  102. Redman - 2 (One collab album with Method Man)
  103. Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - 1
  104. Ruff Ryders - 1
  105. Run-DMC - 3
  106. Salt ’N Pepa - 3
  107. Scarface - 3
  108. Shaq - 1
  109. Silkk The Shocker - 2
  110. Sir Mix-A-Lot - 2
  111. Slick Rick - 1
  112. Snoop Dogg - 8
  113. St. Lunatics - 1
  114. T.I. - 5
  115. TRU - 1
  116. Tha Dogg Pound - 1
  117. The D.O.C. - 1
  118. The Fugees - 1
  119. The L.O.X. - 1
  120. The Roots - 1
  121. Three 6 Mafia - 2
  122. Timbaland & Magoo - 1
  123. Timbaland - 1
  124. Tone-Loc - 1
  125. Too Short - 6
  126. Trick Daddy - 1
  127. Twista - 1
  128. Vanilla Ice - 1
  129. Warren G - 1
  130. Westside Connection - 1
  131. Whodini - 1
  132. Will Smith - 2
  133. Wu-Tang Clan - 3
  134. Wyclef - 2
  135. Xzibit - 1
  136. Young Buck - 1
  137. Young Jeezy - 2
  138. Young MC - 1

So by your definition, anyone not on this list is a failure correct?
 
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bigbadbossup2012 said:
Then what's wrong,why is he a non factor in hiphop,why did he never have his moment or a decent run of success?
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Basically what @904 said in his first reply

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excuses excuses,if you make multiple attempts at Mainstream, then you're a commercial artist. And will be judged as such. He's a failure for making weak joints
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He's a millionaire signed to himself, making the music he wants to make while being nicer than 90% of the game (even his haters will admit that) Far from a failure imo
 
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904 said:
Complete List of Names With Number of Platinum Albums
  1. 2 Live Crew - 1
  2. 2Pac - 11
  3. 50 Cent - 2
  4. 69 Boyz - 1
  5. 8Ball - 1 (No 8Ball & MJG album has gone platinum)
  6. Akon - 2
  7. A Tribe Called Quest - 3
  8. Arrested Development - 1
  9. B.G. - 1
  10. Beastie Boys - 7
  11. Big Pun - 1
  12. Big Tymers - 2
  13. Biggie - 4
  14. Black Eyed Peas - 3
  15. Black Rob - 1
  16. Bone Thugs - 6
  17. Bow Wow - 2
  18. Busta Rhymes - 5
  19. C-Murder - 1
  20. Cam’ron - 1
  21. Chamillionaire - 1
  22. Chingy - 2
  23. Coolio - 2
  24. Cypress Hill - 5
  25. D12 - 2
  26. DJ Clue? - 1
  27. DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince - 2 (Will Smith solo albums counted separately)
  28. DJ Magic Mike & Royal Posse - 1
  29. DJ Quik - 1
  30. DMX - 5
  31. Da Brat - 2
  32. Das EFX - 1
  33. De La Soul - 1
  34. Diddy & The Family - 2
  35. Digital Underground - 1
  36. Dr. Dre - 2
  37. Drake - 4
  38. E-40 - 1
  39. Eazy-E - 1
  40. Eminem - 8
  41. Eric B. & Rakim - 1
  42. Eve - 1
  43. Everlast - 1
  44. Fabolous - 2
  45. Fat Boys - 1
  46. Fat Joe - 1
  47. Foxy Brown - 2
  48. G-Unit - 1
  49. Game - 1
  50. Geto Boys - 1
  51. Ghostface - 1
  52. GZA - 1
  53. Heavy D & The Boyz - 3
  54. Hot Boys - 1
  55. House of Pain - 1
  56. ICP - 2
  57. Ice Cube - 5
  58. Ice-T - 1
  59. J. Cole - 1
  60. Ja Rule - 4
  61. Jay Z - 15 (Does not include his Collison CourseEP with Linkin Park which was an EP, not an album)
  62. Jermaine Dupri - 1
  63. Juvenile - 3
  64. Kanye West - 7
  65. Kendrick Lamar - 1
  66. Kid Rock - 1 (We did not count his more purely rock/country platinum albums)
  67. Kool Moe Dee - 1
  68. Krayzie Bone - 1
  69. Kriss Kross - 2
  70. Lauryn Hill - 1
  71. LL Cool J - 7
  72. Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz - 2
  73. Ying Yang Twins - 2
  74. Lil Wayne - 4
  75. Lil’ Flip - 2
  76. Lil’ Kim - 3
  77. Lil’ Troy - 1
  78. Lloyd Banks - 1
  79. Ludacris - 5
  80. Luniz - 1
  81. MC Hammer- 4
  82. Macklemore - 1
  83. Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch - 1
  84. Mase - 1
  85. Master P - 3
  86. Method Man - 4
  87. Mike Jones - 1
  88. Missy Elliott - 5
  89. Mo Thugs - 1
  90. Mobb Deep - 1
  91. Mystikal - 3
  92. N.W.A - 3
  93. Nappy Roots - 1
  94. Nas - 7
  95. Naughty By Nature - 2
  96. Nelly - 5
  97. Nicki Minaj - 2
  98. Onyx - 1
  99. OutKast - 7
  100. Paul Wall - 1
  101. Public Enemy - 3
  102. Redman - 2 (One collab album with Method Man)
  103. Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - 1
  104. Ruff Ryders - 1
  105. Run-DMC - 3
  106. Salt ’N Pepa - 3
  107. Scarface - 3
  108. Shaq - 1
  109. Silkk The Shocker - 2
  110. Sir Mix-A-Lot - 2
  111. Slick Rick - 1
  112. Snoop Dogg - 8
  113. St. Lunatics - 1
  114. T.I. - 5
  115. TRU - 1
  116. Tha Dogg Pound - 1
  117. The D.O.C. - 1
  118. The Fugees - 1
  119. The L.O.X. - 1
  120. The Roots - 1
  121. Three 6 Mafia - 2
  122. Timbaland & Magoo - 1
  123. Timbaland - 1
  124. Tone-Loc - 1
  125. Too Short - 6
  126. Trick Daddy - 1
  127. Twista - 1
  128. Vanilla Ice - 1
  129. Warren G - 1
  130. Westside Connection - 1
  131. Whodini - 1
  132. Will Smith - 2
  133. Wu-Tang Clan - 3
  134. Wyclef - 2
  135. Xzibit - 1
  136. Young Buck - 1
  137. Young Jeezy - 2
  138. Young MC - 1

So by your definition, anyone not on this list is a failure correct?
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I said EXACTLY what I wanted to say,you don't need an analogy to understand what I said
 
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Hiiipower said:
Basically what @904 said in his first reply



He's a millionaire signed to himself, making the music he wants to make while being nicer than 90% of the game (even his haters will admit that) Far from a failure imo
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He was recently signed to eminem,wtf and had a hit on the majors in the early 2000's
So he's a mainstream artist.
His only notable music moment was on the majors
 
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