Joe Budden: WATTBA Was A Quick Money Grab By The 2 Hottest Rappers & "30 For 30" Was About Jay-z

[10bandz]

That don't even make sense. Whether he wrote or not doesn't take away from the quality of the music, the way the public received it upon drop or the impact the record had. Most of his catalog was written by him according to album liners, and according to the QM leaks even the songs he did get assistance he still penned the majority of the song.

This guy seems to be having an excruciatingly hard time understanding that album liners arent the place to figure out whether someones uses ghosts or not. And merely being named in the credits doesnt mean someone isn't a ghost. It's not hard to do basic research about basic hip hop shyt. QM wasn't even credited on all the songs he did, this is fact. Drake clearly didnt want anyone to know he had help writing and even rapped several times about never using writers even though he does. He been lying and got caught. But hey, keep reverting back to the same old tired ass, naive shyt. "Drake said he wrote his stuff, so I believe him"

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

They're both garbage.

For what it's worth Flockavelli had some bangers

 

[Mike Ock]

For what it's worth Flockavelli had some bangers

when I think about it....you right about a few bangers.

 

[JMurder]

U presented a old Clip of KRS one lying ass saying it. U haven't had one other person actually say it.

I worked in music since I was 19. Never heard any rapper say this.

Are you still on this. You're wrong. Give it up. No one feels like investing time i into an argument that's pointless

 

[ISO]

u know that cant be considered a album that's 3 mixtapes put together and u homo for putting frank ocean in there all he talking about is loving men breh

Ain't the only song about men Forrest Gump? He talking about bytches on there.

ad the weeknd and hush all over take care

What does this have to do with my post it takes nothing away from the impact and quality of the record and again who had majority control and wrote the majority of this shyt? Stop.

 

[ISO]

This guy seems to be having an excruciatingly hard time understanding that album liners arent the place to figure out whether someones uses ghosts or not. And merely being named in the credits doesnt mean someone isn't a ghost. It's not hard to do basic research about basic hip hop shyt. QM wasn't even credited on all the songs he did, this is fact. Drake clearly didnt want anyone to know he had help writing and even rapped several times about never using writers even though he does. He been lying and got caught. But hey, keep reverting back to the same old tired ass, naive shyt. "Drake said he wrote his stuff, so I believe him"

This nikka here stay on my dikk

We already been through this shyt a million times. Yes he wasn't credited on RICO for his four lines shut the fukk up already.

Why even drop these nikkas in the credits at all then if you gonna use ghosts

 

[rapbeats]

That don't even make sense. Whether he wrote or not doesn't take away from the quality of the music, the way the public received it upon drop or the impact the record had. Most of his catalog was written by him according to album liners, and according to the QM leaks even the songs he did get assistance he still penned the majority of the song.

it does take it i away. this is RAP. not R&B, not POP Arianna/britney music. this aint country music. This is RAP. when a RApper makes a CLASSIC album. i said a RAPPER, not a producer that raps. a RAPPER that Raps only. When this guy makes a classic album. he better be the pen in the room. not some other dude(s). and remember we're not talking about one song here or one song there that no one knows of. these are hits he had penned for him. hooks for hits. bars for hits. naw aint going for it. if you aint writing dem raps. you gets no accolades. sorry, thats hiphop. and you aint changing the rules to let a fraud in cause you like the beats on his songs.

 

[rapbeats]

Ain't the only song about men Forrest Gump? He talking about bytches on there.

What does this have to do with my post it takes nothing away from the impact and quality of the record and again who had majority control and wrote the majority of this shyt? Stop.

ok fine. then we cant say "drake has released a classic album" because that would imply in hiphop that drake wrote most if not all of those verses.especially those on the hit songs.

we would have to say Drakes Band released a classic. or Drakes crew released a classic. or drake and the ghostwriters released a classic album.

cause if you say drake released a classic. the new youngins will grow up believing that drake did it all by himself. we all knew guys like eazy e had cube/ren, etc writing for him. same with dre's verses. even before no vaseline. we already knew that. it was a known fact that they admitted too. wasnt a big deal because we saw eazy as a bad leader for nwa the crew.

its like a dre album. we know what that is. thats Dre and friends(= his hot new latest artist)

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Ive always found the future/drake relationship a shining example of how phony and fake the industry is.


I mean just look at their history. Drake jumps on tony montana then doesnt do the video,future comments about that drake says you should be happy with the scraps i gave you basically.


Then they go on tour together,future says drakes album isnt that good,drake throws a tantrum and tries to throw him off the tour but cant because it would be a legal nightmare.


Now they release a quick money grab together.


Its obvious as fukk they dont fukk with eachother at all but make music together for business reasons and the fans eat that shyt up for some reason.

Soon as one of the other isnt hot anymore youlll never see them work together again.



I mean it was obvious drake thought future would be a flash in the pan hence the tony montana disrespect. But it was in futures best interest to keep making music with drake.


Hence,theyre both fake as fukk.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

ok fine. then we cant say "drake has released a classic album" because that would imply in hiphop that drake wrote most if not all of those verses.especially those on the hit songs.

we would have to say Drakes Band released a classic. or Drakes crew released a classic. or drake and the ghostwriters released a classic album.

cause if you say drake released a classic. the new youngins will grow up believing that drake did it all by himself. we all knew guys like eazy e had cube/ren, etc writing for him. same with dre's verses. even before no vaseline. we already knew that. it was a known fact that they admitted too. wasnt a big deal because we saw eazy as a bad leader for nwa the crew.

its like a dre album. we know what that is. thats Dre and friends(= his hot new latest artist)

Drake has never and will never release a classic album though so this is all moot

 

[Mac Casper]

Ive always found the future/drake relationship a shining example of how phony and fake the industry is.


I mean just look at their history. Drake jumps on tony montana then doesnt do the video,future comments about that drake says you should be happy with the scraps i gave you basically.


Then they go on tour together,future says drakes album isnt that good,drake throws a tantrum and tries to throw him off the tour but cant because it would be a legal nightmare.


Now they release a quick money grab together.


Its obvious as fukk they dont fukk with eachother at all but make music together for business reasons and the fans eat that shyt up for some reason.

Soon as one of the other isnt hot anymore youlll never see them work together again.



I mean it was obvious drake thought future would be a flash in the pan hence the tony montana disrespect. But it was in futures best interest to keep making music with drake.


Hence,theyre both fake as fukk.

A lot of details provided here that are overlooked

 

[luckyse7enz]

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Peep the story behind "Trapped" from "2Pacalypse Now", breh.

Ray Luv writes a verse that he doesn't plan on using. Pac finds it and asks to use it. Ray Luv gets a credit on the song and it becomes one of Pac's singles. Pac goes on to become a legend and life goes on.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Ive always found the future/drake relationship a shining example of how phony and fake the industry is.


I mean just look at their history. Drake jumps on tony montana then doesnt do the video,future comments about that drake says you should be happy with the scraps i gave you basically.


Then they go on tour together,future says drakes album isnt that good,drake throws a tantrum and tries to throw him off the tour but cant because it would be a legal nightmare.


Now they release a quick money grab together.


Its obvious as fukk they dont fukk with eachother at all but make music together for business reasons and the fans eat that shyt up for some reason.

Soon as one of the other isnt hot anymore youlll never see them work together again.



I mean it was obvious drake thought future would be a flash in the pan hence the tony montana disrespect. But it was in futures best interest to keep making music with drake.


Hence,theyre both fake as fukk.

Good post

 

[Apex]

Selling albums doesnt equal the hottest never has and never will.

So you think Fetty is one of the hottest out right now? What would you say signifies a "hot artist"?

 

[Apex]

Ive always found the future/drake relationship a shining example of how phony and fake the industry is.


I mean just look at their history. Drake jumps on tony montana then doesnt do the video,future comments about that drake says you should be happy with the scraps i gave you basically.


Then they go on tour together,future says drakes album isnt that good,drake throws a tantrum and tries to throw him off the tour but cant because it would be a legal nightmare.


Now they release a quick money grab together.


Its obvious as fukk they dont fukk with eachother at all but make music together for business reasons and the fans eat that shyt up for some reason.

Soon as one of the other isnt hot anymore youlll never see them work together again.



I mean it was obvious drake thought future would be a flash in the pan hence the tony montana disrespect. But it was in futures best interest to keep making music with drake.


Hence,theyre both fake as fukk.

Does Drake need to make music with Future, though? I don't see what he gains from doing so. Drake is the most popular rapper on the planet and his popularity exceeds just strict hip-hop fans.