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Empire strikes back
he did have that crazy run, but there are qb who sometimes have that outlier
Joe Flacco > Matt Ryan
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STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
how was it an insult
they paid Boldin big money when we traded for him and he never even produced a 1000 yard season
Torrey had more tds than him every year too
Ravens fan overrate the fukk out of dude
he was crazy inconsistent when he was here and the nikka was always complaining
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
no the fukk he didnt
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
@ these "in the moment" poll results. ryan is better...now who you prefer is arguable based on a plethora of fax previously stated
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the poll is 24 flacco 12 ryan
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
right..."in the moment" as in tainted by sunday's results
Copy Ninja
Superstar
If the Falcons have Reed and Lewis in their defense, they win.
Ravens haven't beaten the Pats since Reed and Lewis retired.
Flacco caught lightning in a bottle that playoff run, otherwise he's Dalton
Ravens haven't beaten the Pats since Reed and Lewis retired.
Flacco caught lightning in a bottle that playoff run, otherwise he's Dalton
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
Without Ed and Ray they're below .500 in a 4 year span while going 10-22 on the road. Quality quarterbacks don't post road records like that.If the Falcons have Reed and Lewis in their defense, they win.
Ravens haven't beaten the Pats since Reed and Lewis retired.
Flacco caught lightning in a bottle that playoff run, otherwise he's Dalton
Joe is always gonna have a special place in my Raven loving heart because he had an amazing run in the 2012 playoffs and got my boy Ray another ring on his way out and Ed Reed and Sizzle's first and only ring.
I'm not gonna say he's a better QB than Matt Ryan, because Matt is more consistent and accurate. I've seen the good side of Joe, and I've also seen the really bad side. All Ravens fans, if being honest, have. We watch the games. We know.
With that said, I can't think of a single quarterback for a "top notch organization" who has consistently had less explosive, game-breaking players at the skill positions than Joe. Ever since Ray Rice got cut, we've had no one who can really make things happen for us but a 30 year old Justin Forsett for one season, and a 37 year old Steve Smith on his last legs.
We can get on Joe all we want, and for justifiable reasons, but he hasn't had great weapons in a long time. Not everyone is Brady with the greatest coach of all time and a system that allows him to flourish with any and all personnel.
So no, I won't say Joe is better than Matt, but I will say I would LOVE if we had talent even HALF as good as Julio Jones at our receiver position, or a back as good as Freeman or Coleman.
I'm not gonna say he's a better QB than Matt Ryan, because Matt is more consistent and accurate. I've seen the good side of Joe, and I've also seen the really bad side. All Ravens fans, if being honest, have. We watch the games. We know.
With that said, I can't think of a single quarterback for a "top notch organization" who has consistently had less explosive, game-breaking players at the skill positions than Joe. Ever since Ray Rice got cut, we've had no one who can really make things happen for us but a 30 year old Justin Forsett for one season, and a 37 year old Steve Smith on his last legs.
We can get on Joe all we want, and for justifiable reasons, but he hasn't had great weapons in a long time. Not everyone is Brady with the greatest coach of all time and a system that allows him to flourish with any and all personnel.
So no, I won't say Joe is better than Matt, but I will say I would LOVE if we had talent even HALF as good as Julio Jones at our receiver position, or a back as good as Freeman or Coleman.
Point Blank
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Well if we're playing the swap game.. Give Ryan a defense that Baltimore had and he'd probably have 2 rings already.
Ryan has never had a great defense to save his ass. Ravens fans that like to bring up the Flacco vs Ryan comparison knows this as well.
Point Blank
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Probably would be the opposite if the Falcons won the SB, or better yet, this thread wouldn't even exist.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
Yeah it would help. At the same time though, those guys aren't gonna fix Joe failing to see the blitz coming, failing to see the open man, simply missing his receivers on easy throws, or his tendency to throw off his back foot or jump at the chance to throw to the check down. His most glaring flaws stem from poor mechanics and coaching. His head coach has no knowledge of offense whatsoever, and he's only had one season where his offensive coordinator was any good. Whatever potential he had to be great vanished a very long time ago when he got saddled with John Harbaugh and Cam Cameron.
Playeroni
Aka Nasty Neighbor #CREEPLIFE
He could have had one more ring if his kicker made that fg the year before they one the SB
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
There's no way we make it back in 2012 if we win in 2011. Same as the spurs in 2013 and 2014, the loss was used as fuel. The 2012 team was running on fumes and hope all year long. Honestly, I'm not sure Ray even plays in 2012 if they won it in 2011.