John Oliver goes in on The NCAA

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

scholarships aren't even guaranteed

you can swim or compete in the track at the highest levels before universities, and you can go pro at a young age as well

http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-turns-pro-youngest-in-us-swimming-history/

Keep up with my posts here.

I said the following:

1. There should be a removal of the barriers to going pro

2. Change the scholarship entitlement rules to reflect injury status, voluntary decisions to quit the sport, or other issues that would prevent athletes from playing.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Richard Sherman made a great point. For an athlete to pursue a quality degree that will set them up while balancing athletics would damn near kill somebody. I'm struggling with just a 15 hour course load, couldn't imagine juggling that with practice and games.

How does getting paid fix that?

 

[Black Magisterialness]

This is why they just need to remove the barrier to going pro or come up with a separate program of development for universities so they're not totally students. Just call the sports programs something separate as sports academies or something.

Student Athletes aren't supposed to have easy lives per se. Its hard work.

If they want to be paid, be good enough to go pro

And I have no problem paying these coaches millions of dollars. They have amazing records, helps retain coaching talent, and develops elite teams.

I actually am against the barrier as well to an extent. But let's not kid ourselves...the moment the remove that barrier the moment that a million lil black kids get the notion in their heads that they are gonna go bro and fukk going to school...the shyt won't even have the ILLUSION of education...I still like to think that many student-athletes go on to attain degrees.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

so just continue to let them get raped? If you a nikka whose gonna end up in the pros you not sweating at all for for the 53rd cat on the team? all he gonna have is some ez hoes and worthless degree. give them nikkas some reimbursement, specially when these cacs have no problem giving the coach millions.

If you not gonna end up going pro, then you need to balance your time trying to get a degree thats going to help you. Getting paid isn't going to fix this.

Coaches get paid because:
1. They are the representatives of large institutions
2. They get paid on performance.
3. They are paid to retain their talent instead of going off to work in the pros somewhere or at another school (CEOs run into this all the time. Its part of their payment)

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I actually am against the barrier as well to an extent. But let's not kid ourselves...the moment the remove that barrier the moment that a million lil black kids get the notion in their heads that they are gonna go bro and fukk going to school...the shyt won't even have the ILLUSION of education...I still like to think that many student-athletes go on to attain degrees.

Precisely.

The net-positive is more kids having a degree.

Especially if you come from financial hardship.

i'm sorry your mom is at home struggling, but you're going to have to develop into your own man and make the most out of this situation that everyone IN THE STANDS can't even take advantage of.

Theres kids in engineering programs who are paying out the ass at these schools working their brains to the core who will never get a semblance of the financial support athletes do but have to still make the most out of their 4-5 years and come out on top.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

@ General Studies as a major. Word to Tom Brady...

nikkas resume was solid doe

 

[Tha Gawd Amen]

How does getting paid fix that?

They get some form of compensation for what they give to the school.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Precisely.

The net-positive is more kids having a degree.

Especially if you come from financial hardship.

i'm sorry your mom is at home struggling, but you're going to have to develop into your own man and make the most out of this situation that everyone IN THE STANDS can't even take advantage of.

Theres kids in engineering programs who are paying out the ass at these schools working their brains to the core who will never get a semblance of the financial support athletes do but have to still make the most out of their 4-5 years and come out on top.

But that's still not addressing the fact that these select students generate millions of dollars in revenue for the school...cats who do ground breaking research at universities are basically guaranteed jobs upon graduation. Knock your school sanctioned internship out of the park..and more than likely you can get a gig. This is NOT so for 99.8% of student athletes who at the end of 4 years can have nothing to show for their work but some bullshyt, unshoppable degree because the academic adviser is in cahoots with the coach, who is in cahoots with the President/Athletic Director, who is in cahoots with the board of directors. And made sure that lil Twan keep his ass eligible even though he's got a fukking 8th grade reading level.

the shyt is criminal....but until someone offers a viable alternative

I'd be in favor totally of sports academies like in Barcelona and Southhampton....free boarding schools and athletics...and only 90 mins per day can be allocated to sports...the rest academics.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They get some form of compensation for what they give to the school.

What do they give to the school?

Do students on debate teams and science fairs and research labs get paid too?

Trying to go pro AINT EASY

Trying to compete against the best students AINT EASY

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But that's still not addressing the fact that these select students generate millions of dollars in revenue for the school...

Thats too bad. Athletics are popular. Until ultimate frisbee can get interest from primetime network TV then basketball will remain de rigueur

cats who do ground breaking research at universities are basically guaranteed jobs upon graduation.

same with amazing athletes

Knock your school sanctioned internship out of the park..and more than likely you can get a gig.

Same with athletes. High risk. High reward. Its like saying all gamblers deserve to win.

This is NOT so for 99.8% of student athletes who at the end of 4 years can have nothing to show for their work but some bullshyt, unshoppable degree because the academic adviser is in cahoots with the coach, who is in cahoots with the President/Athletic Director, who is in cahoots with the board of directors.

Then balance your interests to be more tailored towards getting the most out of your college.

I look at guys like Myron Rolle...or Jeremy Lin and I just

You can't have it all.

Because truthfully, this only applies to three sports (and occasionally soccer)

There are swimmers, track and field athletes, and countless others who have no problem (from what I've seen ) living up to that student-athlete life. Sure they face time management issues, but they all manage to continually kick ass on and off the field.

And made sure that lil Twan keep his ass eligible even though he's got a fukking 8th grade reading level.

Sounds like a problem to be handled in 8th grade

the shyt is criminal....but until someone offers a viable alternative

Let kids go pro at any age...but don't blow the opportunity to go to college and then turn the finger back on me. Accountability starts somewhere.

And plus, if you were at a 8th grade reading level, college was only going to do but so much for you anyways. Be real.

(I hate to say this but...) Remember. We wanted those kids to be suspended for that racist chant and they said it was "oh we're kids"...well can't have it both ways.

I'd be in favor totally of sports academies like in Barcelona and Southhampton....free boarding schools and athletics...and only 90 mins per day can be allocated to sports...the rest academics.

Sure. but. these would need to be created

 

[Deafheaven]

what a horrible fukking poster my lord.

 

[heart]

That was a pretty good piece by oliver.

Being that I was a former juco/D-1 college football player a lot of that stuff hit home, especially loosing your scholarship. Not to put everything out there but fresh outta HS I went straight juco because of grades, they had some jersey's on display in the student store but you could order any player on the roster for 79.99. When I transferred to D-1 it was worse, I use to hear "the stars" of the team complain about stuff like this.

The NCAA also has compliance officers at these universities who's job is to basically snoop to see if any players are receiving improper benefits. It happens at every school it's just a matter of getting caught sometimes you have players snitching on other players or disgruntled asst coaches snitching. That's how a LOT of these "investigations" start.

Another dirty secret is yes, if you get injured & you have eligibility left the school is suppose to retain your scholarship but a lot of football coaches & especially b-ball coaches "encourage" less heavily recruited players to give up their dreams of playing professional not because that coach cares about the player's well being, it's really because they want that scholarship back so they can give it to another player. Many times the tuition is so high that most athletes who lost their scholarship drop out.

In a lot of ways the players are being pimped & exploited. What jalen said was spot on, you take a major conference football coach & give him a 5 million dollar salary, really their salary may be 3x that when you add up endorsements.

A lot of people think the UK coach calipari is sleezy but I think he's the realist coach you'll find. I know players who have played for him & ones he recruited, he knows the players are being pimped & he encourages EVERY one of them to leave asap for the pros if they can. He's not selling the facility or classes, he saying go to school for a semster, play ball the other semester & leave. Sometimes you have to work within the system.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

what a horrible fukking poster my lord.

You don't have to agree, but you won't just use these thought-terminating-cliches to eliminate dissent and avoid engaging me.

I'm laying out not only solutions, but rationale.

You have to respect that.

 

[Tha Gawd Amen]

What do they give to the school?

Do students on debate teams and science fairs and research labs get paid too?

Trying to go pro AINT EASY

Trying to compete against the best students AINT EASY

Yeah research labs get grants, my girlfriend is doing one this summer and getting paid pretty decently.

Which one is actually bringing in money to build half the shyt at these schools that people enjoy though? A debate team that brings a crowd of a few hundred every week, or a football game that brings a crowd of tens thousands? Debate teams aren't selling merchandise, aren't selling it stadiums, aren't getting 100,000 seat stadiums built.

debate teams weren't in the pamphlets colleges mailed out when I was high school trying to get me to give them 20 grand a year.

Athletes should get paid because they don't get the same opportunity the average student gets. They don't get to focus on their education to the extent that I do and more than likely will end up not going pro. If they got paid, they could stash some money away to maybe return to school, later with that as their focus and be able to obtain a degree that will actually get them a productive job.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That was a pretty good piece by oliver.

Being that I was a former juco/D-1 college football player a lot of that stuff hit home, especially loosing your scholarship. Not to put everything out there but fresh outta HS I went straight juco because of grades, they had some jersey's on display in the student store but you could order any player on the roster for 79.99. When I transferred to D-1 it was worse, I use to hear "the stars" of the team complain about stuff like this.

The NCAA also has compliance officers at these universities who's job is to basically snoop to see if any players are receiving improper benefits. It happens at every school it's just a matter of getting caught sometimes you have players snitching on other players or disgruntled asst coaches snitching. That's how a LOT of these "investigations" start.

Another dirty secret is yes, if you get injured & you have eligibility left the school is suppose to retain your scholarship but a lot of football coaches & especially b-ball coaches "encourage" less heavily recruited players to give up their dreams of playing professional not because that coach cares about the player's well being, it's really because they want that scholarship back so they can give it to another player. Many times the tuition is so high that most athletes drop out.

In a lot of ways the players are being pimped & exploited. What jalen said was spot on, you take a major conference football coach & give him a 5 million dollar salary, really their salary may be 3x that when you add up endorsements.

A lot of people think the UK coach calipari is sleezy but I think he's a realist coach you'll find. I know players who have played for him & ones he recruited, he knows the players are being pimped & he encourages EVERY one of them to leave asap for the pros if they can. He's not selling the facility or classes, he saying go to school for a semster, play ball the other system & leave. Sometimes you have to work within the system.

Sounds like some poor guidance you got.

1. You went to school NOT because of grades, but to play. Seems you didn't put one foot in front of the other

2. When you got to a D-1 school, you still wanted to complain how "bad" it was, instead of acknowledging you're going there for free without having to pay for anything

3. Sorry you're so inconvenienced of not having to turn down money

4. How are the players being pimped? You have a high performing coach showing you what you COULD be if you worked hard enough to go pro and its his fault you can't get out of your feelings?

Are there problems with the system? Yes....but i'm not hearing any from you.

What ar you doing now? Did you get a degree?