Johnny Davis is looking like the worst lottery pick of the 2022 NBA Draft

Am I overreacting?


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That dude was destined to be a super bust. Phil Jackson is an idiot Spida right there.
I’ll let @storyteller tell it.

I don’t think dude was a bust, but he wasn’t a good fit for NYK at the time.

Plus the city destroy his confidence. Dudes defensive skills were pretty top tier, even down to the very subtle stuff like denying looks that don’t enter stat sheets.

Kid just wasn’t allowed to develop.


Y’all need to draft Keagan / Kris Murray type players who are ready to go. Because the fan base is unrelenting.
 

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I’ll let @storyteller tell it.

I don’t think dude was a bust, but he wasn’t a good fit for NYK at the time.

Plus the city destroy his confidence. Dudes defensive skills were pretty top tier, even down to the very subtle stuff like denying looks that don’t enter stat sheets.

Kid just wasn’t allowed to develop.


Y’all need to draft Keagan / Kris Murray type players who are ready to go. Because the fan base is unrelenting.
Yeah, the Frank story comes down to Phil Jackson drafted him to become a Triangle-PG...then got fired a week later.

So the development plans for Frank shifted from capitalizing on his skillset, to asking him to do a bunch of things he'd never done before. Then they exacerbated the problem by changing his role repeatedly.

First they wanted him to learn to be a point guard, but he didn't have the handle or passing ability. So after a year working on being a PG; they moved him to 3 and D SF in the corner...but he didn't have the jumper for it. So they shifted him to SG playing at the wing. Then they tried him PG again because all their cheap alternatives flopped (we trotted out guys like Jarrett Jack, Ron Baker, and trey Burke during this stretch).

This was all for a three year span. He got minutes but never had a defined role or even a direction to aim his development in. He also had 4 coaches in his 4 years as a knick. So he was learning new roles in new systems repeatedly.

The moral of the story for frank is that you can’t draft a raw player without a development plan for them. If they’re not ready for the nba role, use the g-league to let ‘em figure it out.

Side note: I don’t think Johnny Davis fits this bill. But I just never liked him as a prospect. A lot of my peers in Knicks content creation loved him, but I couldn’t past his lack of separation at the collegiate level for a player his size.
 

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Reading them tweets is infuriating. Get these analytics baby white boys outta here man. They always wanna minimize the role of scoring and applaud a player who can ‘defend, rebound, CUT’ This man said he CUTS well.

Gtfoh it’s a scorers league no matter how much they try to push against it
 

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Reading them tweets is infuriating. Get these analytics baby white boys outta here man. They always wanna minimize the role of scoring and applaud a player who can ‘defend, rebound, CUT’ This man said he CUTS well.

Gtfoh it’s a scorers league no matter how much they try to push against it
I swear, hearing basketball talked about like that is nauseating.
 

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Reading them tweets is infuriating. Get these analytics baby white boys outta here man. They always wanna minimize the role of scoring and applaud a player who can ‘defend, rebound, CUT’ This man said he CUTS well.

Gtfoh it’s a scorers league no matter how much they try to push against it
That tweet read like how the Ausar Thompson fanboys justify his selection. “We don’t need him for scoring or creating offense. We have other guys to do that. We jsut need him to rebound, defend, cut, and be a great secondary passer”:skip:

This is what you want from your top 5 selection?
 

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That tweet read like how the Ausar Thompson fanboys justify his selection. “We don’t need him for scoring or creating offense. We have other guys to do that. We jsut need him to rebound, defend, cut, and be a great secondary passer”:skip:

This is what you want from your top 5 selection?
What's with you and Ausar Thompson? You want from your top 5 selection the best you can get for your team in that particular draft. All drafts aren't created equal. Some are loaded with stars and some loaded with role players. There are even some drafts that are almost completely garbage. This thought that you're always gonna find all stars in the top 5-10 picks is asinine, and as a self proclaimed hoops junky you should already know that. And I ain't huge on Ausar, but I damn sure don't believe he and Johny Davis have the same ceiling.
 

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What's with you and Ausar Thompson? You want from your top 5 selection the best you can get for your team in that particular draft. All drafts aren't created equal. Some are loaded with stars and some loaded with role players. There are even some drafts that are almost completely garbage. This thought that you're always gonna find all stars in the top 5-10 picks is asinine, and as a self proclaimed hoops junky you should already know that. And I ain't huge on Ausar, but I damn sure don't believe he and Johny Davis have the same ceiling.
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