Jon Stewart interviews State Senator Nathan Dahm (R-OK) on America's gun problem. Absolute masterclass (8:27)

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Jon Stewart did a great job. This is how you counteract stupid right wing positions. Unfortunately milquetoast journalists in mainstream media don't do this because they're so obsessed with being balanced. And most Americans don't have the attention spans to listen to someone fully deconstructing right wing arguments. Most right wing policies are untenable and why this country is in the fukked up position that its in today.
Lemme help you.

Journalists don't do this because they'll be fired or demoted asap because politicians will revoke access if they get cooked like he did.

You'll never get Don Lemon or anyone cooking a big politician to their face because CNN will toss them all the way to Bolivia, covering plantain and Pollo parades for the rest of their career.
 

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So then there is literally nothing you can do. Regulating guns doesn’t do shyt. Piece by piece they are adding regulations that DO NOTHING to curb gun violence.

Trump removed Bump Stocks because of Vegas, they still killing kids in schools.

What regulation would curb gun violence in America? Seriously. They keep trying to limit shyt and regulate shyt and we still have mass shooting every year.

Cali, the most regulated state leads the league in mass shootings lol
If you believe everything you’re saying to be true, I assume you also believe there is no solution to largely REDUCING gun violence? Is that your general stance?
 

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The majority of gun deaths are suicides (Well over 50%). If you magically removed all guns, suicide rates wouldn't change. Cops can't even own guns in Japan, yet the suicide rate there is one of the highest in the world. The majority of gun related homicides are actually drug and gang related. Those homicides nearly all occur in cities with high levels of gun regulation. What John Stewart is really talking about is white people homicides, not deaths that occur in black neighborhoods, otherwise the whole, "More commonsense regulation" falls flat on its face. By 1997 UK banned nearly all private gun ownership and overall crime and homicides did not drop. Folks simply switched to knives. Now the UK is pushing for more regulation of knives. UK TV is full of anti-knife commercials for teens.

On the flip, more guns does not equal more safety. The number of road rage deaths in TX is a perfect example. Most illegal gun ownership is due to straw purchases, where someone goes to a gun shop and buys guns for the purpose of selling or giving to someone who legally can't purchase one. The NRA and gun community refuse to address the subject. The NRA is pro cop and pro gun manufacturers/retailers. They don't give a damn about average gun owners. So the NRA could easily advocate to reduce straw purchases, but they won't as it takes money out of the gun industries pockets.

I just want an honest debate. John Stewart looked stupid when the other guy said that Fentanyl deaths are greater than gun deaths. Remove suicides and gun homicides aren't even close to the number one cause of preventable deaths. I can think of far more legit reasons to own a gun than the right to drink alcohol, and alcohol related deaths are far higher. Drunk driving deaths alone are probably on par or greater than gun related homicides. The Uvalde Incident proved to me that we cannot rely on law enforcement, as they have ZERO legal obligation to save or help you when in need. SCOTUS stated thus in Castlerock vs Gonzalez case. The average pro-gun person is waaaaay too pro law enforcement, despite law enforcement will be the ones to confiscate guns, like they did in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. Overall, I'm pro gun, but the public discourse is way off base 99% of the time by both sides. John Stewart simply needs to look up who the previous school shooters were and notice that they all had mental problems and were known by either local law enforcement or the FBI to be a threat.
 

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You are debating the part where at i said all of these things are renewed "at least" once a year.
That was just generalization to encompass drivers licenses, tags, insurances etc. Not a specific argument that you have to get a new drivers license every year,
whenever you guys start singling out parts of sentences and debating that instead of the entire arguments as presented i already you are arguing in bad faith.
try again
I made a list of everything you said I had a problem with
 

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Guns are already fukking regulated…. Name a regulation that has led to LESS gun violence in America?

You can’t be a criminal and buy a gun

You have to take a firearms training course in a lot of states(Cali)

You have to register the gun….

How the fukk would registering the gun every year prevent gun violence lmao..


CALIFORNIA IS THE MOST GUN REGULATED STATE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE LEAD THE NATION IN MASS SHOOTINGS PER CAPITA
you just watched that video and want to argue :pachaha:
 

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The only thing that would stop gun violence is to criminalize gun ownership. Make owning a gun, illegal. Period. Impossible to do at this point of course, but that’s the only thing that would curb gun violence and mass shootings. So since we can’t just snap our fingers and make guns illegal, we have to deal with a gun happy society. Welcome to America :manny:
 

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The only thing that would stop gun violence is to criminalize gun ownership. Make owning a gun, illegal. Period. Impossible to do at this point of course, but that’s the only thing that would curb gun violence and mass shootings. So since we can’t just snap our fingers and make guns illegal, we have to deal with a gun happy society. Welcome to America :manny:
I can understand not believing anything would stop gun violence,

but that doesn't explain why you would be against trying to stop it. or worse ,as this senator is doing ,supporting measures that would actually essentially increase gun violence.
 

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The anti gun side should just be honest and say they want to ban guns completely.

People that use guns to commit violence don’t two fukks about laws and regulation.

Responsible gun owners time and again bear the burden of criminals.

Regardless of the moral panic against guns (Coli liberals never seem to blame the people that use guns) I’m not giving up my rights to ownership and support all laws that make it easier for law abiding people to protect themselves and their property.
 

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The majority of gun deaths are suicides (Well over 50%). If you magically removed all guns, suicide rates wouldn't change. Cops can't even own guns in Japan, yet the suicide rate there is one of the highest in the world. The majority of gun related homicides are actually drug and gang related. Those homicides nearly all occur in cities with high levels of gun regulation. What John Stewart is really talking about is white people homicides, not deaths that occur in black neighborhoods, otherwise the whole, "More commonsense regulation" falls flat on its face. By 1997 UK banned nearly all private gun ownership and overall crime and homicides did not drop. Folks simply switched to knives. Now the UK is pushing for more regulation of knives. UK TV is full of anti-knife commercials for teens.

On the flip, more guns does not equal more safety. The number of road rage deaths in TX is a perfect example. Most illegal gun ownership is due to straw purchases, where someone goes to a gun shop and buys guns for the purpose of selling or giving to someone who legally can't purchase one. The NRA and gun community refuse to address the subject. The NRA is pro cop and pro gun manufacturers/retailers. They don't give a damn about average gun owners. So the NRA could easily advocate to reduce straw purchases, but they won't as it takes money out of the gun industries pockets.

I just want an honest debate. John Stewart looked stupid when the other guy said that Fentanyl deaths are greater than gun deaths. Remove suicides and gun homicides aren't even close to the number one cause of preventable deaths. I can think of far more legit reasons to own a gun than the right to drink alcohol, and alcohol related deaths are far higher. Drunk driving deaths alone are probably on par or greater than gun related homicides. The Uvalde Incident proved to me that we cannot rely on law enforcement, as they have ZERO legal obligation to save or help you when in need. SCOTUS stated thus in Castlerock vs Gonzalez case. The average pro-gun person is waaaaay too pro law enforcement, despite law enforcement will be the ones to confiscate guns, like they did in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. Overall, I'm pro gun, but the public discourse is way off base 99% of the time by both sides. John Stewart simply needs to look up who the previous school shooters were and notice that they all had mental problems and were known by either local law enforcement or the FBI to be a threat.
This is a long post of foolishness, strawmen and gaslighting.
 
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