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GOOD GAWD!
Murked da cac with his own "pistol"/ argument. Pun intended.
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Jon Stewart interviews State Senator Nathan Dahm (R-OK) on America's gun problem. Absolute masterclass (8:27)
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Piff Perkins
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At what point do liberals realize fact checking people who don't believe in facts has never worked and will never work? This content is made specifically to appeal to people on twitter who watch this shyt and get excited at Jon "owning" some crazy right winger but...nobody else cares. It's not changing anyone else's minds.
Win elections and pass your agenda. That's all that matters. We literally saw a kindergarten get shot up and nothing happened, a decade ago.
Win elections and pass your agenda. That's all that matters. We literally saw a kindergarten get shot up and nothing happened, a decade ago.
FlyGuy
pimp of the year
Now do the same thing twice
Three times, four times, then a couple of more times…
The AMOUNT of mass shootings we have in a month is more than the amount any of these places count dead when they have an attack that isn’t an explosion
Ok.
Eight.
That's 1 instance.
Fair point. I'm not arguing that mass violence won't still be possible.
Do you think that 1 occurrence mirrors the occurrences we have in the United States?
Do you think that 1 occurrence of knife violence in Japan is reflective of the gun violence we have in the United States?
Because I think you just found 1 example and think that means "SEE?? A psycho killed a bunch of people without a gun so we shouldn't do anything about the exponentially larger number of gun deaths we have in this country"
Frankly if you told me Japan has 50,000 deaths a year due to knife violence, like the US has with guns...I'd be inclined to listen to your point.
threattonature
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This dumb MF had to go back 22 years to find an instance and is flexing it like a good point was made lol.
threattonature
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It has the ability to change the easily influenced mind of those in the middle. I know some people like this where if you don't blatantly point out how full of shyt the GOP is they try to both sides issues. It's also important to show that not all Dems are trying to completely ban guns like the GOP and some of the dumbasses in here believe but trying to add regulation and some responsibility to owning one.
If a Dem says they want background checks then a right wing nut pushes it as they want to ban all guns. By making someone from the far right look stupid it'll show how full of shyt that angle is.
Dipsey Doo
Superstar
Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
I don't even think it needs to be an annual thing or even bring the guns in. When you get your CCW renewed, you just verify what guns and serials you have. If that gun comes back up in a crime down the road, police should go back to the owner and say wtf happened here, and depending on the circumstances you get fined or jail time.
The other thing that needs to happen is the moment you have a psychological episode, you have to forfeit your ownership until you're mentally sound.
My own nephew has tried to merk himself multiple times, is on a cocktail of mood altering drugs, and repeatedly got into domestic issues with his BM where the police were called; literally the double/triple murder suicide shyt you hear on the nightly news once a week. No one ever came to claim his guns; no one once ever. Me and his dad borderline had to fight dude to get his AR-12 and multiple handguns away from him. Something is very wrong with what should be routine.
That little to no regulation shyt on guns is beyond dumb.
This goes both ways. Many liberals who are against voter ID are in favor of exorbitant fees to own a firearm.
Cakebatter
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1. Why are you talking about suicides? That wasn't mentioned in the video. Also, fewer guns would lead to fewer suicides by guns. Nobody is suggesting all suicides would be eliminated if we got rid of all guns. So that was stupid.
2. Where the homicides occurs has nothing to do with taking steps to reduce gun violence. People want to see gun violence reduced EVERYWHERE. Whether it's in a city or in a rural town. So that was stupid.
3. You keep mentioning this argument that "X-place took measures and there is still violence". So what does that have to do with reducing gun violence? There will still be issues, but you still take action to mitigate them. So that was stupid.
4. You just want an honest debate. Of course you do. That's why you just whataboutism'ed this into "but but but THE ALCOHOLS!...
Goofy, foolish and disingenuous posting.
Like I said.
1. Suicide is a crucial point to make given over 50% of all gun deaths are intentionally self inflicted. Many of the countries with the highest rates of suicide have little to no private gun ownership, so saying removing guns reduces suicides isn't backed up by anything, but Copium.
2. If you think more gun laws reduce gun violence, then you have to reconcile with the fact that the majority of gun related homicides occur in cities with the strictest gun laws. Have you looked at the gun laws of Chicago? How have they helped gun violence there?
3. I bet you think the families of shooting victims would feel better if their loved one was gutted with a knife. If you don't think that, then you should see the relevance of discussing countries like the UK, who banned nearly all private gun ownership, but the number of homicides remained constant as criminals simply switched weapons. Talk of reducing gun deaths, without taking into account the general homicide data or numbers is complete nonsense, unless you agree with the first sentence. There is zero data that shows where a country that significantly reduced guns also lowered violent crimes or homicides as a result. It doesn't exist.
4. My points only come across to you as "Whataboutism" because you simply lack the knowledge to properly discuss the topic.
So you want to reduce gun ownership? Why? How many regular citizens each year ward off a crime with their firearm each year? Do you think its less than homicides? Do you think its less than all gun deaths combined? The most conservative estimate is 70,000 cases of firearms used in self defense per year. That's provided by National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS). So banning guns to stop 25k homicides, while guns are also used 70k times in self defense makes sense how?
White American men desperately cling to their guns because they are afraid they will be physically defeated by any non-white man without them. 
"Buh buh but I'm an exception to that rule!"
I know. I'm not talking about you.
That's all this is about. That's what conservative American gun culture is about. Small dikk white men who can't fight. End of story. If that's the side you're on, lmao
"Buh buh but I'm an exception to that rule!"
I know. I'm not talking about you.
That's all this is about. That's what conservative American gun culture is about. Small dikk white men who can't fight. End of story. If that's the side you're on, lmao
Pure Water
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I’m not talking about Voter ID though. I’m talking about voter registration.
Scustin Bieburr
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The saving grace we have ironically is social media. You can have channels like: vox, some more news, democracy now or even clips from last week tonight that go viral and get people thinking and engaged.
The main stream news is the perspective you get from your managers at work, not coworkers. The commercials are for stuff like automobiles you can't afford, geriatric medication, "wealth management" services, etc. The language they use is often dehumanizing too. When they say "labor" they mean people. When they say "the cost of labor has gone up" they mean "people are asking for higher wages" then they just leave it at that. They'll talk about jobs lost or grown but won't talk about company profits in the same time period. It's all designed to make you not think about what these people are actually doing and how fukked up it is.