Judge Joe Brown says Rittenhouse was acting in Self Defense.

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I don’t think people actually know the facts of this story. He was being pursued when he shot them folks, by the letter of the law that is self defense but this case is not about the textbook definition of self defense. This is about justifiable homicide which is an entirely different beast under the legal parameters. You CAN start a fight, kill someone because of how the other party escalated the situation and it be within the letter of the law. It can also go the other way which is why in this case a trial actually serves its purpose beyond basic due diligence of the law. This is not about the gun he had, it’s not about his age. He’s going to get minor charges on those issues. This is about even if he had a brick and beat these folks to death with it was he within his means to do so and that we do not know as John Q Public.

With that being said, from a human and moral stand point they need to lock this man away. Don’t know if they actually can…


So you’re telling me that guys with a skateboard pursued the guy with the fully loaded AR? :jbhmm:


Except there’s already been video evidence submitted that shows Rittenhouse pursuing them with his gun drawn, before he shot them.


That’s why the defense is going after technicality after technicality.
 

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And this is the world these gun nuts want. He's a p*ssy looking white boy with an AR, in a country where p*ssy looking white boys are known to go on mass shooting sprees. And he couldn't handle it when shyt went down, and people came after him, like people are going to do in this type of situation.
 

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The way media portrayed him I thought he was done MAGA kid out there lookin for smoke

not really the case, idk why this trial is politicized so much



I agree the MSM was very irresponsible how they presented things in this case. They either didn't have all the facts or just didn't care.
Not saying this guy is not guilty but they were pushing "he came there to do a mass shooting" stuff. Right Wing media also is doing too much trying to portray this guy as a "hero".

And before anybody says "fukk this CAC lawyer but but what about Ahmaud Arbery?"

 

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You see this shyt in Boxing/MMA circles as well

lame fukks want to live out their Clint Eastwood/Tyler Durden fantasies

then be shocked motherfukkers shoot and fight back, and that there might be consequences for their bullshyt.

And this is the world these gun nuts want. He's a p*ssy looking white boy with an AR, in a country where p*ssy looking white boys are known to go on mass shooting sprees. And he couldn't handle it when shyt went down, and people came after him, like people are going to do in this type of situation.
 

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Joe Brown keeps telling us who he is that's all I can say.
they like him when he attacks gays and groups they dont like...but when he c00ns out, even if legally correct, they have to reconcile who they went to the mat defending
 

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I don’t think people actually know the facts of this story. He was being pursued when he shot them folks, by the letter of the law that is self defense but this case is not about the textbook definition of self defense. This is about justifiable homicide which is an entirely different beast under the legal parameters. You CAN start a fight, kill someone because of how the other party escalated the situation and it be within the letter of the law. It can also go the other way which is why in this case a trial actually serves its purpose beyond basic due diligence of the law. This is not about the gun he had, it’s not about his age. He’s going to get minor charges on those issues. This is about even if he had a brick and beat these folks to death with it was he within his means to do so and that we do not know as John Q Public.

With that being said, from a human and moral stand point they need to lock this man away. Don’t know if they actually can…

I think the main issue comes from where you come down on the gun issue and the stated issue he said he was there for.

The whole “I’m a medic, protecting property” is flimsy at best.

If he picked up a gun he found and killed someone, I think it would be hard to deny justification for homicide. The fact he thought he needed an AR to “protect property” to some will be hard to reconcile. Since the law is terrible about what exactly is justified in killing someone on your own property.
 

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Some questions, i dont were answered:

1. What caused Rosenbaum to give chase? Was he provoked? Or chased for no reason.
2. Why not stand your ground? You have the gun. Why run away?
3. How can you use self-defence against an unarmed man?


In my opinion, defendant didn't even attempt to de-escalate the situation.If the defendant hadn't had a gun, he might've tried another method of defusing the situation.

Really this defense is, " I panicked so I shot him"
 

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Some questions, i dont were answered:

1. What caused Rosenbaum to give chase? Was he provoked? Or chased for no reason.
2. Why not stand your ground? You have the gun. Why run away?
3. How can you use self-defence against an unarmed man?


In my opinion, defendant didn't even attempt to de-escalate the situation.If the defendant hadn't had a gun, he might've tried another method of defusing the situation.

Really this defense is, " I panicked so I shot him"

Based on my limited legal knowledge:

1. Rosenbaum was mentally ill. One of the prosecution witnesses said so.

2. Rittenhouse says he ran because he was scared. This helps his defense a lot. He can say he tried to retreat.

3. Rosenbaum was bigger than him, chasing him, and continued to chase him even after Rittenhouse pointed the gun at him. Rittenhouse can paint a picture that Rosenbaum intended to harm him. Remember that Michael Drejka case? That cac is in prison now because in the moment he fired, Marquis Mcglockton had ceased his advance. If Rosenbaum had stopped his advance, it would be clear cut.

Remember, hes not charged with murder. It's reckless homicide. I think he's going to be acquitted, but it could go the other way. :yeshrug:
 

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JJB has been tipping his feet in the MAGA grift pond for a while now if we’re being honest.

Yes technically he shot in self defense but constantly letting these killers get away with the self defense excuse for a situation they themselves escalated is crazy and a very slippery slope.


You know, one hypothetical situation I've been thinking about with regards to the equal application of this self defense stuff is when person A is selling drugs on a block and person B tries to take the block with force. If person A kills person B with a gun will they be able to get off with self defense laws?

I can't imagine this judge acting the same if person A and person B are black.
 
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