Just because someone says that you talk white doesn't mean that they're saying you talk proper

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With the little semblance of culture that we do have deviation tends to be ostracization. Right or wrong in the eyes of whomever every group of people have their rules of engagement and because black people here specifically have been so long separated from something solid-like what African tribes have you don't even realize this shyt is commonplace. If sound like an outsider you get taunted. And another thing people don't even realize is if we had real power us speaking ebonics wouldn't mean a damn thing but because we lack power speaking like your indoctrinaters is beneficial due to the fact that you're a just another cog in his system.

sidenote: If you're family is from Jamaica and you were born in a foreign land and you go to Jamaica for the first time and you talk it's literally a guarantee that you'll be made fun of because of how you speak different. If you grew up in Jamaica and move to a foreign land and come back for the first time in like 6-months and start speaking with accent of the people of the country you we're living in you'll get made fun of and get told that you're twanging(trying to sound like a foreigner). People'll even say your trying to act stush(you think your shyt doesn't stink) or better than everybody else. So many people getting offended because they take pride in sounding like the people who oppressed them.
 

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People aren't shaming blacks for not having deep voices they're shaming them for imitating white speak, for instance there are Asian "twinkies" who have grown to imitate whites until it has become normal but they are still referred to as "twinkies" because they are still Asian people who exhibit qualities that are of white culture whether they're trying to or not that is what they're doing. This is the same with blacks. Just because someone grows up with another culture does not mean that they somehow are impervious of "talking white" yeah it may come natural now since they're saturated in that culture but they are still imitating that way of speaking which they benefit from because white culture is the default culture in America. And yesssss hillbillies are seen as less white they are labeled white trash the throwaway whites who aren't as intellectually capable as the rest and backwards helloooo where in the world is a hillbilly and a valley girl seen as the same thing?

I don't know...from the looks of some of the comments in here, it seems like this is more about excluding people from what is considered being "authentically black" because they can't relate to them from some reason or another. If isn't about speech and intonation--it's about music choice, someone's taste in hobbies, the choice of school someone attends or the political affiliation that they have. Anything that deviates from what they define as "black" is automatically seen as less-than and ridiculed as such. this thread is just another example of that.

I'm calling it for what it is in the bigger scheme of things.

lol I just find it ironic that you keep mentioning "Asian twinkies" (something I never heard with the exception to a movie) thereby justifying this type of behavior, while failing to acknowledge that Asians are much less diverse than blacks in this country. They are much more homogenous and the people wihin the culture are very similar to one another with really no cultural influence or overlap between themselves and other races from one generation to the next. This isn't the case with blacks. Black People in Mississippi have much more in common with whites in Mississippi than they do with Blacks in Boston or somewhere in Connecticut, but yet they are still both "black" in my eyes despite the fact that they sound different ad live differently.

Now you keep saying "Asians do it too...."insinuating that it makes it ok.....but if I were to compare black and Asian neighborhoods, and come to the conclusion that Asian neighborhoods are less violent, upwardly mobile, more industrious and generally more educated...but black ones generally aren't...you (and many others) would say "hey....how can you compare the two? They have a TOTALLY different history in this country." But for some odd reason you think it's fair to compare them in this situation...ok.

And there is no way to talk "black" that's my point. Tone and bass within someone's voice of normally biometrical with height and weight.Not only that, but blacks are too diverse regionally, and class wise to even make the argument. What's oddly funny is that to most people (other blacks included) when someone uses ALOT of slang and cussing like "muddafukka" and "ya kna mean"...no one ever thinks them as not talking "black." BUT if some one black doesn't use any slang or does any cussing, they are automatically up for review of just how "black" they really are? :patrice: How can anyone not see that as an insult to what being "black" is?


And no hillbillys are not seen as being any less "white" than some snooty, upper class white folk. They are seen as less-than (i.e lower on the social class in the heiarchy) but not less[racially] "white." No white person of the upper 1% looks at a trailer park hillbilly and says "hey that person isn't as white as I am."
 

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Most of them weren't united, too many of y'all have a romanticized view of the past

I'm not saying it was Voltron.

:dwillhuh:

Just that they were more united than we are presently.

Like the concept of a black community in 1965 wasn't as preposterous as it is today.
 
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00000000000000000000000000016874People love playing stupid.

James Earl Jones,Morgan Freeman,Kobe Bryant and Denzel Washington are examples of black men that "speak proper" but their inflection/tone isn't anything like a white surfer dude or white dudebro.

Oprah,Michelle Obama and Condoleezza Rice are examples of black women that "speak proper" but their inflection/tone isn't anything like a white valley girl or white preppy chick.

There's exceptions but black men generally have deeper voices and white men voices are more nasally or
high pitched.

It has nothing to do with speaking intelligently.Races sound different and that's a fact.

Yes SOME black people may imply "talking white" means you're trying to sound smart but that isn't always the case.It's mostly referring to taking the bass out your voice.

Some whitewashed black women that are attracted to white men alter their voice and emulate stereotypical
white girl mannerisms.

Some black folks that work in corporate America alter their voices.Also known as the "professional
or friendly" voice.

Some black moms alter their voices when a bill collector calls.

Some black news reporters alter their voices.

Some black men at job interviews try to sound as non threatening as possible.

People KNOW this and still play stupid.

Jim Carrey,Ashton Kutcher,Michael Cole,George Bush and Robert De Niro are all white guys that dont sound
anything alike but you can tell they're not black.They sound white as fukk.

Master P,Ice Cube,Larenz Tate,Kawhi Leonard and Nelly are all black guys that don't sound anything alike but you can tell they're not white.They sound black as fukk.

Britney Spears clearly sounds white.

Lauryn Hill clearly sounds black.

Alicia Silverstone from the movie Clueless clearly sounds white.

Pam from Martin clearly sounds black.

Stone Cold Steve Austin and Victor Newman have raspy voices but they still sound white.

Stacy Dash and Kerry Washington don't sound like Remy Ma but they still sound black.

Dee from What's Happening clearly sound black and nothing like the white girls from The Brady Bunch.

Carlton Banks was a cornball brotha that used CAC lingo but he still had a black guy voice.

CACS love words like "dude","awesome","totally" and "literally".

CACS love calling their friends "bud","buddy" or "pal".

A lot of CACS call their aunt "ant" and grandmother's "nana".

Only CACS say "rad","gnarly" or "F*cking A".

CACS love calling people "douchebags","c*nts","as*holes" and "d*cks".

CACS love saying they're gonna get wasted,smashed or "shi*faced" when drinking.

Black guys call their friends "homie","dawg" or "partna".

White girls call their friends "bestie" or "BFF".

Black women love saying "heifer","hussy","girl bye","boo boo", "chile please" and "lord have mercy".

Only white guys say "shut your piehole" or "get screwed".

Only white guys say "smoking hot" or "hot blonde".

White guys also love saying cock instead of dikk.


Truth. I was in Best Buy and i heard this black customer tell the cashier "awesome sauce" & "cool beans".

Those are far from proper terms. They shole is white tho

Exactly!

More examples...

"Holy freaking crap"
"OMG"
"Like totally"
"No freaking way"
"I cant even"
"I was dikking around"
"You're such a twat"
"Jimmies Rustled"

Only CACS say shyt like that.
 
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I'm not saying it was Voltron.

:dwillhuh:

Just that they were more united than we are presently.

Like the concept of a black community in 1965 wasn't as preposterous as it is today.

:jbhmm:

I agree but that was more by force and not choice

Once redlining and other housing discrimination ended, many black people fled the continuity

Malcolm X talked about "House Negros" willing to pay more than what a house was worth to live around their white master
 

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00000000000000000000000000016874People love playing stupid.

James Earl Jones,Morgan Freeman,Kobe Bryant and Denzel Washington are examples of black men that "speak proper" but their inflection/tone isn't anything like a white surfer dude or white dudebro.

Oprah,Michelle Obama and Condoleezza Rice are examples of black women that "speak proper" but their inflection/tone isn't anything like a white valley girl or white preppy chick.

There's exceptions but black men generally have deeper voices and white men voices are more nasally or
high pitched.

It has nothing to do with speaking intelligently.Races sound different and that's a fact.

Yes SOME black people may imply "talking white" means you're trying to sound smart but that isn't always the case.It's mostly referring to taking the base out your voice.

Some whitewashed black women that are attracted to white men alter their voice and emulate stereotypical
white girl mannerisms.

Some black folks that work in corporate America alter their voices.Also known as the "professional
or friendly" voice.

Some black moms alter their voices when a bill collector calls.

Some black news reporters alter their voices.

Some black men at job interviews try to sound as non threatening as possible.

People KNOW this and still play stupid.

Jim Carrey,Ashton Kutcher,Michael Cole,George Bush and Robert De Niro are all white guys that dont sound
anything alike but you can tell they're not black.They sound white as fukk.

Master P,Ice Cube,Larenz Tate,Kawhi Leonard and Nelly are all black guys that sound anything alike but you
can tell they're not white.They sound black as fukk.

Britney Spears clearly sounds white.

Lauryn Hill clearly sounds black.

Alicia Silverstone from the movie Clueless clearly sounds white.

Pam from Martin clearly sounds black.

Stone Cold Steve Austin and Victor Newman have raspy voices but they still sound white.

Stacy Dash and Kerry Washington don't sound like Remy Ma but they still sound black.

Dee from What's Happening clearly sound black and nothing like the white girls from The Brady Bunch.

Carlton Banks was a cornball brotha that used CAC lingo but he still had a black guy voice.

CACS love words like "dude","awesome","totally" and "literally".

CACS love calling their friends "bud","buddy" or "pal".

A lot of CACS call their aunt "ant" and grandmother's "nana".

Only CACS say "rad","gnarly" or "F*cking A".

CACS love calling people "douchebags","c*nts","as*holes" and "d*cks".

CACS love saying they're gonna get wasted,smashed or "shi*faced" when drinking.

Black guys call their friends "homie","dawg" or "partna".

White girls call their friends "bestie" or "BFF".

Black women love saying "heifer","hussy","girl bye","boo boo", "chile please" and "lord have mercy".

Only white guys say "shut your piehole" or "get screwed".

Only white guys say "smoking hot" or "hot blonde".

White guys also love saying cock instead of dikk.


00000000000000000000000000016874

Exactly!

More examples...

"Holy freaking crap"
"OMG"
"Like totally"
"No freaking way"
"I cant even"
"I was dikking around"
"You're such a twat"
"Jimmies Rustled"

Only CACS say shyt like that.
:pachaha:

You never lied breh
 
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