Just so we're clear on what and who the Moors are

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Before the transatlantic slave trade racialized slavery, everyone sold slaves to everyone.

Whites sold whites as well during the Roman and Greek era.

Before the creation of white supremacy, the concept of race we live with today didn't exist. The Greeks and Romans didn't view themselves as being the same as the blonde hair blue eye Germans to the north. And similarly black people in Africa didn't view themselves as the same.

Stop trying to project modern sensibilities to the past.
So then when did white supremacy come about?
 

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So the Umayyads in Iberia were black and so was Abdul Rahman I?
 

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The moors were signing treaty's with white supremacists in America as well as aiding in the colonization of Africa by Europeans. They wasnt cutting heads, they were cutting deals. But we can act like thats all fake news.:mjpls:


Why are nikkas keep posting this crap after its been debunked. Again THOSE ARE NOT Berbers/Moors! @Akan :mjlol:
 

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Yup which in turn Europe used to kill them and enslave them. Same way with Judaism when the blacks provide do cacs with the knowledge and they took their identity which led to akhenazi being known as Israelites now. History is deep Brehs and remember most of the shyt told is lie so read between the lines
since childhood when i was studying history dad told me study hard get that A but know history is always through the eyes of the winner there is a whole other side to every event you are learning about
 

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Uh... The invading force of Iberia were Berbers/Blacks. Umayyads=/=Moors. They were Arabs who led then Moors, but soon Berbers ruled Iberia by themselves under the Almoravid dynasty.

After the Caliphate of Cordoba fell which was founded by Rahman, then those territories split and were united again
 

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So those black men in turbans arent Moors and those black men in Fez hats arent Moors either according to you. Moor is a Greek word that means Black, were those not Black men either?
How about you pick up a book on the Moors or the very least read the posts in this thread. For one Berber Muslims do NOT wear Fez and never had. These was how the Moors would have look/dressed like.
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Second. I already shown that the men with the Fez with Queen Elizabeth were a fighting force from NIGERIA. Third, the men we see in the Congo were from the Swahili Coast and were NOT Berbers. How about you and others actually do research on the role those Swahili slavers from the coast played in the Congo colonization.
https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/books/9783110541441/9783110541441-008/9783110541441-008.pdf

And turbans? So freaking what. Is EVERY African Muslim now a Moor? And I already know what the term Moor means. So you don't have to lecture me. And with the bolded you defalte your own argument. According to your logic EVERY Black Muslim is a Moor even if they had nothing to do with the Iberian invasion. What are you guys smoking?

"Moor" in its true sense meant the Black inhabitants of Northwest Africa. Group who the Europeans largely saw as "Moor" were Black Berber groups such as Masmuda, Sanhaja, Tuaregs, and other Berbers. And NOT West African and Swahili Muslims which you posted.
 
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