Just what was Microsoft thinking?

[MeachTheMonster]

So they decided how the console would work after the internet rage wave? Tell me more.

Its all software that can be changed at any time.

I don't know if I'll be able to find it, but there was a story that said Sony was still finalizing their decisions up untill a week or so before e3

Edit: here you go. http://m.edge-online.com/news/e3-20...ar-policies-across-both-consoles-say-sources/


http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/20...rm-plans-for-ps4-following-xbox-one-backlash/

 

[King Sun]

 

[Brief Keef]

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/348201049947009024

:ljpls:

don't take a genius to figure that out once they saw ps4 was lappin them they had to change that shyt quick

 

[Fury616]

I think this problem, just like the rest of them are overblown by the internet community and gaming "journalist" looking for clicks.

Indie games have always had a place on Xbox. In fact some of the best games on Xbox this year were indie games. Internet stans wrote them off as "just XBLA titles" that didn't matter. Until the Internet told them Sony is supporting indie games and evil M$ isn't. Now indie games are so important.

Xbox will have indie games as it always has.

Indie devs are saying M$ policies are shyt...not internet fanboys.

Indie developers abandon Xbox One as Xbox Live Arcade axed | Metro News

Gamasutra - News - Interview: Jonathan Blow - Xbox Live Arcade 'A Pain In The Ass' For Indies

‘Let me tell you something: most indies I know already don’t want to publish on a Xbox console. publisher or no publisher’, tweeted FEZ creator Phil Fish.
‘Microsoft doesn’t care about indie developer’.
‘One thing MSFT doesn’t seem to understand is that indie developers are the regular developers of tomorrow’, he added.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Market is heading this direction Microsoft botched it by forcing it....Sony already has family share and provides access to purchase retail games on psn

You don't force markets on people you test markets and strengthen your position in them so that when the market is ready to change your already there

Dumbass

Bingo.

 

[Rekkapryde]

That's not true. It's the retail space that is preventing this change. Publishers still have to work with retail and spend tons of money getting their games advertised and promoted by retail companies. One of the stipulations is that retail companies won't promote your games if you try to undercut them in the digital space.

Not entirely true. Vita games were always 5 bucks cheaper downloading digitally.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Indie devs are saying M$ policies are shyt...not internet fanboys.

Indie developers abandon Xbox One as Xbox Live Arcade axed | Metro News

Gamasutra - News - Interview: Jonathan Blow - Xbox Live Arcade 'A Pain In The Ass' For Indies

‘Let me tell you something: most indies I know already don’t want to publish on a Xbox console. publisher or no publisher’, tweeted FEZ creator Phil Fish.
‘Microsoft doesn’t care about indie developer’.
‘One thing MSFT doesn’t seem to understand is that indie developers are the regular developers of tomorrow’, he added.

The fez dude has been going all out against M$ for a couple years now. Same with Jonathan blow. They are the to vocal indie devs that have whipped up the Internet into a firestorm.

Other devs have come out in the defense of Microsoft

Indie developer defends Microsoft - GameSpot.com

Indie defends Microsoft in face of trending criticism | Game Development | News by Develop


There are some Microsoft policies that aren't popular with indie devs, and Microsoft has said they are looking at changing them. But this idea of Microsoft shytting on indies or that Xbox One doesn't support indie games is just Internet sensationalism as most things sourounding next gen consoles are. In reality neither company has laid out there full plans on how indie games will be handled. So any dev that's trashing one while lifting up the other, obviously has some other agenda going on.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Not entirely true. Vita games were always 5 bucks cheaper downloading digitally.

Why do you think retailers don't push the vita or its games?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Why do you think retailers don't push the vita or its games?

I can't tell, I see Vita games right with the console shyt. It's one thing if they stopped selling Vita physical games. Most consumers still buy the physical media since the Vita memory cards are high.

 

[Fury616]

The fez dude has been going all out against M$ for a couple years now. Same with Jonathan blow. They are the to vocal indie devs that have whipped up the Internet into a firestorm.

Other devs have come out in the defense of Microsoft

Indie developer defends Microsoft - GameSpot.com

Indie defends Microsoft in face of trending criticism | Game Development | News by Develop


There are some Microsoft policies that aren't popular with indie devs, and Microsoft has said they are looking at changing them. But this idea of Microsoft shytting on indies or that Xbox One doesn't support indie games is just Internet sensationalism as most things sourounding next gen consoles are. In reality neither company has laid out there full plans on how indie games will be handled. So any dev that's trashing one while lifting up the other, obviously has some other agenda going on.

You keep saying the internet...it's not the internet, that is their inner circle. They just use the internet as a platform to voice their opinions just like everyone else. Problem is the negative shyt that devs are talking about outweighs the positive regardless if you think they have a personal vendetta. Sony allows self-publishing, M$ doesn't...you can't sugarcoat that.

Oddworld dev criticises Xbox One self-publishing policy | Game Development | News by Develop

http://www.develop-online.net/news/44276/No-self-publishing-for-indies-on-Xbox-One

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You keep saying the internet...it's not the internet, that is their inner circle. They just use the internet as a platform to voice their opinions just like everyone else. Problem is the negative shyt that devs are talking about outweighs the positive regardless if you think they have a personal vendetta. Sony allows self-publishing, M$ doesn't...you can't sugarcoat that.

Oddworld dev criticises Xbox One self-publishing policy | Game Development | News by Develop

"Self publishing" is an idea that wasn't on anyone's radar until they read about it on the Internet.

I didn't see anybody applauding "self publishing" a year ago. And just because you are allowed to "self publish" doesn't mean you will be successful on a platform or that your game is the right fit for it.

"Self publishing" in itself isn't the problem. It's the other stipulations and fees Microsoft has attached to their service. And once again they have said that they are talking with devs and considering options. All of this "indie" "self publishing" talk is pointless until the full plans are released on both consoles.


Do you really want the PSN store to look like the Iphone/android App Store?

 

[Fury616]

"Self publishing" is an idea that wasn't on anyone's radar until they read about it on the Internet.

I didn't see anybody applauding "self publishing" a year ago.

"Publishing is the process of production and dissemination of literature, music, or information — the activity of making information available to the general public."

Self-publishing is available in many forms...not just videogames. If I want to write a book, I can "publish" it myself and put it on Amazon. If I want to do music, I can create it myself and put it on Youtube. If I want to draw a comic, I can do it myself and put it on the internet or in a blog. Only a moron would think that "self-publishing" only exists in videogames.

If I can create and fund something on my own why the fukk do I need a middleman? M$ is saying that middleman is mandatory. GTFOH

 

[MeachTheMonster]

"Publishing is the process of production and dissemination of literature, music, or information — the activity of making information available to the general public."

Self-publishing is available in many forms...not just videogames. If I want to write a book, I can "publish" it myself and put it on Amazon. If I want to do music, I can create it myself and put it on Youtube. If I want to draw a comic, I can do it myself and put it on the internet or in a blog. Only a moron would think that "self-publishing" only exists in videogames.

If I can create and fund something on my own why the fukk do I need a middleman? M$ is saying that middleman is mandatory. GTFOH

Do you want the ps4 store to resemble the apple/android App Store?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Rumour: Microsoft to announce Xbox One self-publishing at Build | VG247

fukk. What's the Internet gonna complain about now

 

[Rekkapryde]

Rumour: Microsoft to announce Xbox One self-publishing at Build | VG247

fukk. What's the Internet gonna complain about now

Keep fallin back MS....keep on ....

I love it. This is a good thing though for them. Unfortunately most will see this, and rightfully so, as being forced to and not necessarily wanting to.

Sony goons forcing their hand everywhere.

They aint budging on that price drop though this early....