Justice Scalia Suggests Blacks Belong at "Slower" Colleges

[Rarebird77]

Me: Okay cool let's all go to the slower colleges students, athletes, teachers etc.

Cac: Wait a minute the black athletes can stay...umm they earned it.

Me:

Yeah and then they undereducate those athletes while making money off their backs.

The athletes need to reconsider where they attend imo.

 

[Rarebird77]

Not sure what you mean there. The rigors of the field of Psychology is beyond belief. There is a reason there is such a small number of Psychology PhD.'s. It is too difficult for most. The field has operationalized and studied human thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, something at one time deemed impossible. Just the understanding of the neural pathways that contribute to human existence alone puts Psychology on footing with any other science. Psychology is long past the days of being a second class science. The instruments and assessments of Psychology were challenged as less reliable and valid than more medical model instruments. The power of Psych instruments were ran and they were just as and sometimes even more reliable and valid than medical instruments such as Pap smears, mammography, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and electrocardiograms. I have earned my Ph.D. in Psychology and I would put my field and the rigors of it against anyone's. You do realize that PhD.'s get more schooling than Md's right, and PhD's all have to advance knowledge by producing their own wok, i.e. dissertation.

What can psychology make?

Aside from papers, and theories, what can psychology make?

 

[CAC Dogg]

 

[Rarebird77]

I came into this thread expecting a very different discussion.

I'm happy to find there are many who think the think the same way I do.

Scalia is a known bigot, but regardless, I don't think he's wrong here. I don't care for the man, nor his supposed motivations, so I could care less to argue about him or his racism.

Going to these top tier or ivy league schools with the ability but not the financial and familial support is probably pushing a lot of these kids out of these schools. Many would have done better at schools that didn't tax them so much financially and socially.

I mean, it's not like you're going to be barred from being hired from a job based on the school you went to. I laugh to myself all the time about the fact that some of my colleagues went to Harvard and all I did was go to state school and we got the same job, lol.

 

[King Poetic]

No surprised.... this guy he was part of the Ronald Reagan klan

 

[Red Shield]

I don't know why you waste you're life trolling like this

 

[Moshe.]

I didn't like the college I attend (predominantly white school) and wish I had gone to an HBCU, but that's life. I did pretty well where it concerns cGPA and mGPA, but I think I could have been a perfect student provided I went somewhere where there were other Black students in my field I could speak with, etc...
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• Where it concerns Affirmative Action, I don't really care for it too much. Scalia has always been a racist and his views on Blacks is just him espousing those same tired, old views. Whites benefit more from Affirmative Action than Blacks and so do Asians, but let's focus on Blacks? An idiot actually said, "his points were more nuanced".
• People comparing income levels don't factor in that poor whites tend to live in better neighborhoods than poor Blacks.
• Some people on this site are either whites, or very stupid people with very little critical thinking skills.
• One dumbass actually said, "if you got an 1800SAT, you will be destroyed by the curve..." or something stupid along those lines but failed to take in the data where students with 1800 SAT did pretty well in terms of graduating from Ivy league schools. Then again, when someone doesn't actually read for understanding as opposed to reading text with no comprehension on Thomas Sowell's meaning, I should already know stupidity will ensue.

My Thoughts: Most Blacks that do attend Ivy league schools are competitive enough to attend those school. And Blacks that do attend Harvard have graduation rates that are higher than the rest of the country, and the same goes for Blacks attending other Ivy leagues as well. The 250 Blacks that end of failing out or dropping out might have, like other college students, other reasons as to why they couldn't perform. Placing the issue solely on, "well they couldn't compete because they were too dumb" is one of the most short-sighted, stupid, lame, talking points that I've seen. I have a tendency to judge things on a case-by-case basis, and like most Black students attending predominantly white colleges, there are issues we have. While I did great at a mostly white institution, I still had some issues with the institution.

Blacks, on average, that do attend Ivy league schools and MIT have good graduation rates comparable to their peers (not a significant dip).


I cannot deal with people that have a hard time thinking themselves out of a box today.

No offense, but there is a ton of evidence showing exactly what you are mocking/doubting., this is obvious and well known to anyone paying any attention to Affirmative Action at all.

• Black college freshmen are more likely to aspire to science or engineering careers than are white freshmen, but mismatch [affirmative action acceptants] causes blacks to abandon these fields at twice the rate of whites.
• Blacks who start college interested in pursuing a doctorate and an academic career are twice as likely to be derailed from this path if they attend a school where they are mismatched.
• About half of black college students rank in the bottom 20 percent of their classes (and the bottom 10 percent in law school).
• Black law school graduates are four times as likely to fail bar exams as are whites; mismatch explains half of this gap.
• Interracial friendships are more likely to form among students with relatively similar levels of academic preparation; thus, blacks and Hispanics are more socially integrated on campuses where they are less academically mismatched.

The Painful Truth About Affirmative Action

Bullshyt links, bullshyt logic, by a poster lacking the mental faculties to conduct proper research.

Black graduation rates at Ivy league schools tend to be higher than the rest of the country

Harvard Has the Highest Black Student Graduation Rate in the Ivy League
Black Student Graduation Rates at High-Ranking Colleges and Universities

Those people talking about Blacks in higher education and at Ivy league schools are some of the dumbest posters on this site. Anyone dapping or repping those idiots are even dumber than they are.

 

[Rarebird77]

I didn't like the college I attend (predominantly white school) and wish I had gone to an HBCU, but that's life. I did pretty well where it concerns cGPA and mGPA, but I think I could have been a perfect student provided I went somewhere where there were other Black students in my field I could speak with, etc...
--------------------------------------------- O -------------------------------------------

• Where it concerns Affirmative Action, I don't really care for it too much. Scalia has always been a racist and his views on Blacks is just him espousing those same tired, old views. Whites benefit more from Affirmative Action than Blacks and so do Asians, but let's focus on Blacks? An idiot actually said, "his points were more nuanced".
• People comparing income levels don't factor in that poor whites tend to live in better neighborhoods than poor Blacks.
• Some people on this site are either whites, or very stupid people with very little critical thinking skills.
• One dumbass actually said, "if you got an 1800SAT, you will be destroyed by the curve..." or something stupid along those lines but failed to take in the data where students with 1800 SAT did pretty well in terms of graduating from Ivy league schools. Then again, when someone doesn't actually read for understanding as opposed to reading text with no comprehension on Thomas Sowell's meaning, I should already know stupidity will ensue.

My Thoughts: Most Blacks that do attend Ivy league schools are competitive enough to attend those school. And Blacks that do attend Harvard have graduation rates that are higher than the rest of the country, and the same goes for Blacks attending other Ivy leagues as well. The 250 Blacks that end of failing out or dropping out might have, like other college students, other reasons as to why they couldn't perform. Placing the issue solely on, "well they couldn't compete because they were too dumb" is one of the most short-sighted, stupid, lame, talking points that I've seen. I have a tendency to judge things on a case-by-case basis, and like most Black students attending predominantly white colleges, there are issues we have. While I did great at a mostly white institution, I still had some issues with the institution.

Blacks, on average, that do attend Ivy league schools and MIT have good graduation rates comparable to their peers (not a significant dip).


I cannot deal with people that have a hard time thinking themselves out of a box today.



Bullshyt links, bullshyt logic, by a poster lacking the mental faculties to conduct proper research.

Black graduation rates at Ivy league schools tend to be higher than the rest of the country

Harvard Has the Highest Black Student Graduation Rate in the Ivy League
Black Student Graduation Rates at High-Ranking Colleges and Universities

Those people talking about Blacks in higher education and at Ivy league schools are some of the dumbest posters on this site. Anyone dapping or repping those idiots are even dumber than they are.

It doesn't surprise me about the ivies tbh.

Lots of rich black folks in the country sending their kinds to ivy schools. Make sense.

 

[Moshe.]

It doesn't surprise me about the ivies tbh.

Lots of rich black folks in the country sending their kinds to ivy schools. Make sense.

Shouldn't surprise anyone but some posters in this thread are running with Scalia's comments and saying they are "nuanced" . Blacks tend to do well at rigorous schools, of course some Blacks end up failing out for reasons I have no idea about, but overall, the national averages tend to speak for themselves. Then there are non-critical thinking fools like @Eric Blair giving their two cents on things they know little about.

5%-7% Black kids failing out of the highly competitive schools yet you don't account for the 93-95% that are graduating? Kindly

 

[CAC Dogg]

I don't know why you waste you're life trolling like this

Who is trolling? im educating.

 

[CAC Dogg]

Bullshyt links, bullshyt logic, by a poster lacking the mental faculties to conduct proper research.

Black graduation rates at Ivy league schools tend to be higher than the rest of the country

Harvard Has the Highest Black Student Graduation Rate in the Ivy League
Black Student Graduation Rates at High-Ranking Colleges and Universities

Those people talking about Blacks in higher education and at Ivy league schools are some of the dumbest posters on this site. Anyone dapping or repping those idiots are even dumber than they are.

you gettin hostile ("anyone who disagrees with me is stupid! if you dap their shyt you stupid! ) and insulting cuz you have no decent points to stand on



"bullshyt links by a poster lacking the mental faculties to conduct proper research"
this is from your OWN fukkING SOURCE (read the goddamn title)

"At most top schools, the black graduation rate remains well below white graduation rate"

 

[CAC Dogg]

lol this clown @Moshe. NEGs me for using his own source against him. Why is the truth so upsetting to yall?

 

[Moshe.]

you gettin hostile ("anyone who disagrees with me is stupid! if you dap their shyt you stupid! ) and insulting cuz you have no decent points to stand on



"bullshyt links by a poster lacking the mental faculties to conduct proper research"
this is from your OWN fukkING SOURCE (read the goddamn title)

"At most top schools, the black graduation rate remains well below white graduation rate"

Re-read my post and those links. I don't have time to deal with slow people today.

 

[Danie84]

This is what the highest court think of US, imagine how their low-level CaCsucKKKas feel:

 

[CAC Dogg]

Re-read my post and those links. I don't have time to deal with slow people today.

I read it all, twice, i'm not slow, you literally contradicted yourself with your own source.

you are claiming:

Black graduation rates at Ivy league schools tend to be higher than the rest of the country

You post one link that shows Black graduation rates (but mentions nothing about relative rates to other races).

Then you post a second link that explains, with a giant graph, bold ink and blue font:

"At a Small Number of Prestigious Colleges and Universities, the Black Student Graduation Rate is Higher Than the Rate for Whites. But at Most Selective Colleges and Universities, the Black Graduation Rate Continues to Remain Well Below the Rate for Whites.