Kanye West finally does an interview (NY Times), and it's pretty fascinating

[drugxglory]

Just bring on the music

 

[kingest_kong]

Just bring on the music

Whos that in your avi breh?

 

[RTF]

Nah, Nah, Lupe came out at the PERFECT time. He came out like 05/06 when he dropped "kick push" and was on "touch the sky". This was perfect timing b/c he definitely stood out amongst his peers who were either on some "lean with it rock with it", a "trap star" or they were some Mixtape NY rapper. Not to mention the attention H-town was getting. All you gotta do is look at the freshman 08 cover and compare lu against the other artists.


SO yeah Lupe came out at the right time b/c if he came out around lets say 08 or 09 he would've had more competition in his lane and he would not have stood out as much, even though he's a WAYYYY better lyricist than most rappers now

EDIT: I'd go out on a limb and say that Ye, Pharell, AND Lupe are partially responsible for the shift in rap.

Nah breh. Lupe took one for the team.

Things in hip-hop music happen in trends. Kanye and Pharrell set trends/are involved in trends. Either Kanye being in Rocafella or Pharrell producing loads of hits. Lupe followed in their path stylistically but he came too quick. He did help shift the game - but he had to take his L's in the process.

 

[C.G.Jung777]

I have respect for Rick Rubin, but this whole idea of him coming in and stripping shyt down making his beats more minimalistic kinda scares me. When I listen on my Audiotechnica ATH-M50s im looking for sonically complex shyt.

But I suppose I can appreciate it and not listen to it simply to hear different nuances in my headphones, still its got me kinda weary...

 

[JustCKing]

But even When C. Dropout and Late Registration came out like you said, Lil Jon, G unit and snap music STILL dominated. Other than Lupe, there wasn't many new artists who were on the conscious tip or rapped about social issues.

IMO, Graduation and 808's Were the real game changers.

It opened the door for others to walk through though. In 2004, a Jadakiss could drop a song like "Why" and it becomes his biggest hit. A group like Dilated Peoples got play on 106 & Park with "This Way" which was produced by and featured Kanye. Kanye's soul infused production reached it's peak with College Dropout to the point where just about every rapper had a Kanye verse or beat on their album (or both). Kanye's sound rivaled Crunk and G-Unit in popularity from 2004-2006.

College Dropout was a game changer. Graduation and 808's was when Kanye started to play follower. Graduation was basically Kanye grabbing Toomp for the stadium sound due to how huge "What You Know" was. Songs like "Stronger", "Drunk & Hot Girls", and "Flashing Lights" had more of a Neptunes and Timbaland influence. The rest of the songs were standard Kanye records. 808's was also very much of the moment as 808 driven production and autotune were on many of the big songs at the time. The only touch Kanye added is that he took that and made a dark, melancholy pop record out of it.

Both of those albums also grabbed some of the most trendy guest appearances too.

 

[Enzo]

by that same argument, you can say the soul sound was kanye taking primo, rza, dilla, etc.

 

[91til]

Kanye West elevated the Genre

he deserves to be cocky for creating something like this


Kanye West - Lost in the world HD ( From Kanye's film "Runaway") - YouTube

if you enjoy this type of fakkit shyt you should seriously delete your account and head to the sign up page on KTT

 

[The Message]

If you've been following Kanye's career from the jump none of this comes as a surprise. I'm sure with some of the stuff he's trolling/ playing up to his character.

But Talib Kweli has spoken about how ambitious Kanye was. How he was talking about singles and videos for his second album - before the first was even finished. Another tale is how he'd stand up on tables in the stu and just start rapping before he got signed.

He's sane enough to make good and somewhat relatable music. But homie has BEEN on the cusp of crazy.

Kanye isn't crazy or conflicted. He's self-aware. He understands celebrity and everything that comes with it. Instead of downplaying it or trying to run from it, he feeds it. Society treats celebrities like gods, so instead of being modest, Kanye feeds it by acting the role. He knows that he's reached a point where everything he does is going to be put under a microscope, so he's going to give you a show by doing what he loves doing: making music.

All of Kanye's antics up to this point have all paid off. He successfully trolled the media (and us to an extent) to the point where it's hard to decipher whether he's trolling or being real. He succeeded where others failed. Artists like Lady Gaga tried it, but the antics overshadowed the music. Kanye's antics work as promo and commercials for his music.

I dont see why it's so hard for nikkas not to understand this. The nikka aint crazy. He knows exactly what he's doing. All the great artists have been had this "bigger than life" persona. Prince, George Clinton, Miles, Hendrix, David Bowie were masters at this - it's clear to see he's been studying that shyt. To me it's what a lot of rap cats dont seem to get.

 

[AsAboveSoBelow]

Dude was trolling his ass of with the Steve Jobs comparisons .
It's okay to say it in a song, but in an interview...

Like I said in another post he's a method actor, he goes into the role of the music he's releasing. From backpacks to tuxes and golden girls to suited up to rockstar.

People take it to seriously, I see it all as entertainment. The only question I have is if he changes his personality first and then creates the music or vice versa.

Good question.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Leaking tomorrow morning or Friday.

 

[drugxglory]

Whos that in your avi breh?

Rosanna Castillo

 

[Offthegrid]

Nah, Nah, Lupe came out at the PERFECT time. He came out like 05/06 when he dropped "kick push" and was on "touch the sky". This was perfect timing b/c he definitely stood out amongst his peers who were either on some "lean with it rock with it", a "trap star" or they were some Mixtape NY rapper. Not to mention the attention H-town was getting. All you gotta do is look at the freshman 08 cover and compare lu against the other artists.


SO yeah Lupe came out at the right time b/c if he came out around lets say 08 or 09 he would've had more competition in his lane and he would not have stood out as much, even though he's a WAYYYY better lyricist than most rappers now

EDIT: I'd go out on a limb and say that Ye, Pharell, AND Lupe are partially responsible for the shift in rap.

this is all fact, ye,lu,skate board p all played a part from 05-10, really birth the styles of wale,drake,kendrick in a kinda way. Im tryn to figure out wats the next wave of hiphop music in this new decade.

 

[Henryflo1]

Leaking tomorrow morning or Friday.

how you know bruh

 

[Omerta]

He's such a polarizing figure.

People say Tupac was great, but he did more bad than good in terms of he created after him. But Kanye is worse, he's great but he's created so much bad. But is it right to put the blame on him? Is it his fault he's so uncontrollably influential? Maybe, maybe not.

At the end of the day though, this Kanye, the current one, is the weakest Kanye ever. It feels forced, weak, too emotional, too contrived, but at the worst is that unlike any other situation, this one is not even entertaining. Lupe did this already. He got shyt on unfairly whereas Kanye gets a red carpet. Lupe had better music too.

 

[RAX 010]

Damn i cant wait to bump this from start to fin