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Kanye has freestyles battle some of the best as a producer, he is very capable of writing lmao
Kanye would be top 10 all time if he wrote his raps
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DontEemTry
Superstar
So he uses ghost writers because...?
Majestyx
Duck Season
rap ≠ sanging
we need to be clear though: is it top 10 rap artist or top 10 rap lyricist?
meaning, black thought is probably not going to make the former but can easily be top 5 in the latter. i feel the need to make this distinction because the ambiguity of the question makes the consistency in responses very confusing. everybody is judging on different merits & rubrics so nikkas need some kind of clarity out the gate
but anyway, i see no problem with anybody putting yeezy as a top 10 rap artist. he's that great
meaning, black thought is probably not going to make the former but can easily be top 5 in the latter. i feel the need to make this distinction because the ambiguity of the question makes the consistency in responses very confusing. everybody is judging on different merits & rubrics so nikkas need some kind of clarity out the gate
but anyway, i see no problem with anybody putting yeezy as a top 10 rap artist. he's that great
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Slim Charles
All Star
that's the crux of it. Is Kanye a top 50 rapper? Hell no. But as an artist it's hard not have him in my top 20 based on the great run he had
Kanye knows how to make an album. So many great lyricists barely have a run of more than 2 great albums as they don't know how to make great music. While Kanye at least for me had an incredible run of 5 albums from College Dropout to Yeezus.
I know this, but the reality is, his best and biggest songs were written for him, which is most of the reason he's excluded from top MC talk. If he was like Dre or Diddy and didn't try to insert himself in that talk, people would let him slide, but, thankfully, that's one of the Hip-Hop rules that still exists.
nobody listens to r&b for the lyrics
Kenny West
Veteran
If his discography stopped before Yeezus, yes.
The doodoo garbage he's dropped from Yeezus and beyond tarnished his legacy worse than the ghostwriters
The doodoo garbage he's dropped from Yeezus and beyond tarnished his legacy worse than the ghostwriters
OG Talk
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Is Kanye really more influential than Guwop?
Who has had more clones since 2004?
Who has had more clones since 2004?
Kenny West
Veteran
Kanye, but it gets muddled in the fact that he became a biter himself. Graduation era Kanye was one of the most influential & famous dudes on the planet.
Over a decade later spoiled teenage goofies are wasting thousands of their parents money on his ugly clothes.
A 5 year regional mixtape run doesnt compare
Toe Jay Simpson
Searchin’
Kanye from 04-11 - All time great
Kanye from 12-Now - Garbage
Kanye from 12-Now - Garbage
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
Even before I knew he had writers, I didn't rate Kanye like that. Never did I think he was one of the best rappers. There were times where he made me believe it ("Diamonds from Sierra Leone," "Gorgeous") but that was never his strong suit. At his best, he was a decent MC with above average production.
Michael was writing when he was in the Jackson 5. Rod Temperton stopped working with him after Thriller.
Michael was writing when he was in the Jackson 5. Rod Temperton stopped working with him after Thriller.
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Wayne would be a better example.
Either way Kanye’s influence with young Black males has always been overstated. Even his fashion influence was bigger in the white and Asian community.
same with drake .. but edge goes to drake.. he for sure wrote more and wrote for others..
