Kareem Abdul-Jabbar thinks Tim Duncan had a better career than Kobe
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malbaker86
Gators
Only thing Kobe has done better than Duncan in is career is shoot the ball A LOT more.
Tide Run This
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Theodore >>>>>> Bean
He arguably has, but at this point who gives a fukk what Kareem has to say? 
Tide Run This
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He arguably has, but at this point who gives a fukk what Kareem has to say?
I need Ja's thought on it all
Stack Money
All Star
The last ring came as the 3rd best player on the team and MVPs are decided by the media who have hated Kobe most of his career which is why he only has 1 even tho he was the best player on the planet for the better part of a decade.
By that logic Duncan rode Parker for his 4th ring and both Kawhi and Parker for his 5th so we should discredit those last 2 rings, Kobe would have those same 2 rings in Duncan's spot if he had Parker and Kawhi and would have another one this year wit Aldridge.
You Kobe haters/Duncan stans want to take away his first 3 rings yet Kobe was always the 1st or 2nd best player on the team while Duncan was the 3rd best player on his team for that last ring he won and he's currently the 4th best player on his team, but yall gonna ignore that yet we all know if Kobe won a ring as the 3rd best player yall would be downtalkin him and if he was the 4th best player we'd constantly have threads on here bringin it up.
DIMES
Retired troll
no he didn't.While I agree that Tim has had the better career, these two statements are pretty incongruent.
Plus Kobe rode Shaq for 3 of his rings.
Shaq wouldn't have won a single ring in la without Kobe.
So who rode who? It's up to you provide the evidences
malbaker86
Gators
The last ring came as the 3rd best player on the team and MVPs are decided by the media who have hated Kobe most of his career which is why he only has 1 even tho he was the best player on the planet for the better part of a decade.
By that logic Duncan rode Parker for his 4th ring and both Kawhi and Parker for his 5th so we should discredit those last 2 rings, Kobe would have those same 2 rings in Duncan's spot if he had Parker and Kawhi and would have another one this year wit Aldridge.
You Kobe haters/Duncan stans want to take away his first 3 rings yet Kobe was always the 1st or 2nd best player on the team while Duncan was the 3rd best player on his team for that last ring he won and he's currently the 4th best player on his team, but yall gonna ignore that yet we all know if Kobe won a ring as the 3rd best player yall would be downtalkin him and if he was the 4th best player we'd constantly have threads on here bringin it up.
3 finals MVP's>>>>>2
2 league MVP's>>>>>1
Same amount of rings
Never had his team in the lottery or missed the playoffs. These are facts....FACTS
The last ring came as the 3rd best player on the team and MVPs are decided by the media who have hated Kobe most of his career which is why he only has 1 even tho he was the best player on the planet for the better part of a decade.
By that logic Duncan rode Parker for his 4th ring and both Kawhi and Parker for his 5th so we should discredit those last 2 rings, Kobe would have those same 2 rings in Duncan's spot if he had Parker and Kawhi and would have another one this year wit Aldridge.
You Kobe haters/Duncan stans want to take away his first 3 rings yet Kobe was always the 1st or 2nd best player on the team while Duncan was the 3rd best player on his team for that last ring he won and he's currently the 4th best player on his team, but yall gonna ignore that yet we all know if Kobe won a ring as the 3rd best player yall would be downtalkin him and if he was the 4th best player we'd constantly have threads on here bringin it up.
Kobe got carried to his first ring and was the sidekick to Shaq for multiple rings.
Duncan has more MVPs and more FMVPs. Hell, you talking about "Kobe was the first or second best player" like Duncan wasn't the best player for four of his rings. If you wanna use that logic.
Stack Money
All Star
Finals MVPs is all Duncan has over him cause regular season MVPs lost credibility after Jordan retired, the media hated on Kobe and gave Nash 2 MVPs while both Kobe and Shaq have one each so by that logic Nash >>> Kobe and Shaq.
The Spurs organization never had the team in the lottery or missed the playoffs, errbody knows the Lakers front office was some shyt post 3 peat. Those are the facts.Kobe was arguably the best player for 2 of those rings especially if you compare their playoff numbers in 01 and he was the best player in the world for a long stretch while Duncan was never the best in the league,
by your logic Duncan got carried to his 4th and 5th rings by Parker and Leonard.I already said why the MVPs don't mean shyt and Duncan was only the best player for 3 of his rings the 4th ring Parker was the best and durin the 5th Leonard was the best, Kobe never was lower than 2nd best on his team and if he played wit that roster he'd have at least 6 rings right now.
Of course he had the better career. He stayed healthy and had a more consistent FO.
He's had the most comfortable ride in NBA history........and still couldn't repeat
He's had the most comfortable ride in NBA history........and still couldn't repeat
malbaker86
Gators
Finals MVPs is all Duncan has over him cause regular season MVPs lost credibility after Jordan retired, the media hated on Kobe and gave Nash 2 MVPs while both Kobe and Shaq have one each so by that logic Nash >>> Kobe and Shaq.
Kobe was arguably the best player for 2 of those rings especially if you compare their playoff numbers in 01 and he was the best player in the world for a long stretch while Duncan was never the best in the league,
I already said why the MVPs don't mean shyt and Duncan was only the best player for 3 of his rings the 4th ring Parker was the best and durin the 5th Leonard was the best, Kobe never was lower than 2nd best on his team and if he played wit that roster he'd have at least 6 rings right now.
Lol at discrediting MVP's only when you're trying to use it in your favor. Us Spurs fans can do the same about the MVP because Duncan def should have won it the year it was given to Malone in 98-99 season but that's something we don't gripe about
And stop it with the foolishness that TD was never the best in the game, i'm not even going to address that because that's an OPINION.
The fact remains, since day one Kobe wasn't even starting while TD was LEADING his team to 50 win seasons and titles. Facts
Tim Duncan was the stabilizing force in SA while Kobe has ran through HOW many coaches in his career?
How many times has a Kobe led LA team miss the playoffs and how many times has a TD led Spurs missed the post season or even been in the lottery? Never.
All y'all have to hang your hat on is 5 titles.
By the time Kobe ever made 1st team All NBA, TD was winning league MVP's. Facts
He contradicted himself a bit but yes
GetInTheTruck
Member
I swear sometimes it seems like Kareem be in a room talking to himself.
Stack Money
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Lol at discrediting MVP's only when you're trying to use it in your favor. Us Spurs fans can do the same about the MVP because Duncan def should have won it the year it was given to Malone in 98-99 season but that's something we don't gripe about
And stop it with the foolishness that TD was never the best in the game, i'm not even going to address that because that's an OPINION.
The fact remains, since day one Kobe wasn't even starting while TD was LEADING his team to 50 win seasons and titles. Facts
Tim Duncan was the stabilizing force in SA while Kobe has ran through HOW many coaches in his career?
How many times has a Kobe led LA team miss the playoffs and how many times has a TD led Spurs missed the post season or even been in the lottery? Never.
All y'all have to hang your hat on is 5 titles.
By the time Kobe ever made 1st team All NBA, TD was winning league MVP's. Facts
No I'm pointin out that its obvious the media hated Kobe most of his career which is why they refused to give him more than one MVP, Duncan didn't lose to Malone based on blatant bias against him the way Kobe did.You won't address Duncan never bein the best in the game cause you know its true, Shaq was the best and then Kobe became the best after that. Duncan wasn't even in the league durin Kobe's first few years when he was comin off the bench, by the time Duncan got in the league Kobe started becomin a great player and Duncan was playin wit the Admiral.Now you need to stop wit the foolishness Pop and that front office is why SA was stable, only great coach Kobe had was Phil them other coaches were jokes and you know it. Thats right Kobe never lead LA to miss the playoffs it was the shytty front office who did that, if Duncan was playin wit Smush Parker instead of Tony Parker he'd be in the lottery too.
All YOU have to hang your hat on is media given regular season awards, at the time Duncan was playin wit Parker Ginobili and Robinson Kobe was playin wit Kwame Brown Smush Parker and Luke Walton. Durin this late career stretch when Duncan has been the 2nd 3rd and 4th best player on his own team Kobe was the best player on his team, Facts.
