KD: "Iverson Is The Pound For Pound Best"

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Scoring pgs aint new :skip:
the game is just shifting to small ball because big men fell off
Still doesn't mean the sg position isnt weak as shyt :scust:

The prominence of them are new because stretch 4s and spacing is a lot more prominent due to the rule changes making it harder to run an offense through a back to the basket big man.

Not only that but SG was typically the "bail out" position. If the offense stagnated, you gave the ball to your SG because they were typically your best creator off the dribble but Iso Ball also died out in favor of a more PnR oriented game.

SG is weaker but we got a lot of great depth and young talent in the other two perimeter spots so I'm not stressing.

Curry, Kyrie, Dragic, Bledsoe, Wall, Lilliard, Parker, CP3, Westbrook, Rose (Possibly), Lowry, Conley

Lebron, Durant, Melo, George (Assuming he heals) Kawhi, Iggy, Batum

It's not too bad. It's nowhere near early 2000s but it's not as bad as it was in the 90s.

Jordan, Drexler...
 

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if he was 6'6" 210 like Kobe or MJ he woulda been the GOAT. if he was 6'8" 270 like LeBron, they woulda had to ban him from the game cause it woulda been unfair. to dominate like he did at 5'11" 160 was not real.

But he wasn't and if he was his game would have been totally different

The reason he was quick like that was because he was light and small.
 

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no. it means that if he was 6'6" he'd be better than MJ.

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The prominence of them are new be. use stretch 4s and spacing is a lot more prominent due to the rule changes making it harder to run an offense through a back to the basket big man.

Not only that but SG was typically the "bail out" position. If the offense stagnated, you gave the ball to your SG because they were typically your best creator off the dribble but Iso Ball also died out in favor of a more PnR oriented game.

SG is weaker but we got a lot of great depth and young talent in the other two perimeter spots so I'm not stressing.

Curry, Kyrie, Dragic, Bledsoe, Wall, Lilliard, Parker, CP3, Westbrook, Rose (Possibly), Lowry, Conley

Lebron, Durant, Melo, George (Assuming he heals) Kawhi, Iggy, Batum

It's not too bad. It's nowhere near early 2000s but it's not as bad as it was in the 90s.

Jordan, Drexler...
sg position is dead breh atleast you can admit to it :scust:
 

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When it comes to small players at their absolute peak, Iverson has few equals. I think Thomas had the better career and for the sake of his team, he played team ball and sacrificed some of his potential scoring stats. But when you think of being explosive and scoring, the name Nathaniel "Tiny" Archibald is a name that students of the game know. Tiny Archibald was listed at 6'1 but some say he was shorter in real life. But in 1973 Nate led the league in scoring and assists at the same time (34 ppg, 11.4 apg). Plus Tiny played in the parks and Dr. J said Nate was one of the guys who could dominate in the streets and the league equally. Iverson was definitely the same in that regard.
 

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@Draje are you seriously tryna argue this garbage crop of SGs is on par with the early 00s just because positions have been blurred? I don't even see any nikkaz on a T-Mac level, let alone Kobe. PG is doing great, but SG is damn near extinct as far as I'm concerned its just Kobe, some aight nikkaz, and a bunch of bums.
 

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@Draje are you seriously tryna argue this garbage crop of SGs is on par with the early 00s just because positions have been blurred? I don't even see any nikkaz on a T-Mac level, let alone Kobe. PG is doing great, but SG is damn near extinct as far as I'm concerned its just Kobe, some aight nikkaz, and a bunch of bums.

Of course not. I just think the lines have been blurred to the point where guards are just guards. There was a much bigger distinction between PGs and SGs back then and their roles on teams.

Combo PG guards pretty much killed the SG position and then you got the emergence of a crop of young SFs who do what the SG used to do too which was "be the best individual scoring talent on the perimeter" for a team.

The SG is a dead position because it's pretty much been phased out and phased into the other backcourt positions but it's best years were definitely 2000s.

Hell, Harden is pretty much the PG for his team. He handles the majority of playmaking and creating for his team. He runs the offense far more than Beverly or Lin do.

Iverson would be classified as a PG like Rose or Curry. Tracy would probably roll as a 3 like George and Durant. Carter would switch between the 2 and 3.

I'm just saying that I don't really care as much because you got 1s (Curry, Rose, Westbrook, Dragic, Lilliard, Kyrie) who play similar to the 00 SGs of old anyway or you got guys like Lebron, Durant, Melo, and George who do similar.

Plus, the SG position will never die as long as Monta "have it all" Ellis is alive.
 
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But he wasn't and if he was his game would have been totally different

The reason he was quick like that was because he was light and small.

Usain Bolt is the fastest man ever and he's 6'5". accoring to your logic, lighter smaller dudes should be more explosive. some dudes just have more god given athletic ability than others REGARDLESS of size. AI was one of those dudes. If he grew to 6'6", its likely he woulda kept his speed and explosiveness. the extra height and reach woulda just made him 10x more dangerous. he prolly woulda averaged 40ppg.
 
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you can disagree with the conclusion that AI woulda been better than Mike if he was 6'6" but being pound for pound the best literally means if you and someone else are equal in pounds, then you are better. hence if AI was the same size as MJ, if in KD's opinion he's pound for pound the best, then he woulda been better than Jordan.
 

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Of course not. I just think the lines have been blurred to the point where guards are just guards. There was a much bigger distinction between PGs and SGs back then and their roles on teams.

Combo PG guards pretty much killed the SG position and then you got the emergence of a crop of young SFs who do what the SG used to do too which was "be the best individual scoring talent on the perimeter" for a team.

The SG is a dead position because it's pretty much been phased out and phased into the other backcourt positions but it's best years were definitely 2000s.

Hell, Harden is pretty much the PG for his team. He handles the majority of playmaking and creating for his team. He runs the offense far more than Beverly or Lin do.

Iverson would be classified as a PG like Rose or Curry. Tracy would probably roll as a 3 like George and Durant. Carter would switch between the 2 and 3.

I'm just saying that I don't really care as much because you got 1s (Curry, Rose, Westbrook, Dragic, Lilliard, Kyrie) who play similar to the 00 SGs of old anyway or you got guys like Lebron, Durant, Melo, and George who do similar.

Plus, the SG position will never die as long as Monta "have it all" Ellis is alive.

I guess. Personally I think it sucks. It's one of the reasons I look down on chicken george so much. He has the body type to be like the SGs of the 00s but he's some shyt and a fukkboy off the court to boot. A witch doctor should give that nikka youth to Kobe, T-Mac, or AI(Young nikkaz of today need AI's guidance more than ever :sadcam:). I just think it's wack, but on another note it totally fits this weirdo anything goes decade we're in now. :yeshrug:
 
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