Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly | (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

[Lil Wango]

No I don't, but that's not what I'm talking about anyway

I'm talking about a connection that can't be defined....an x factor.....the need to hear the album again and again.....a sense of emotion when I listen to it

I don't really relate to any songs on GKMC but I catch that feeling anyway. I just don't catch it on TPAB. It's not the same thing as relating to lyrics....if I had to relate to lyrics to catch that feeling than there would be zero chance that non-vocal album could every be 5 mic album which blatantly isn't true. In Hip Hop for example, DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" is top 5 all time IMO and there is obviously nothing relate-able about it since its all beats.

My top 2 albums so far this year are Sufjan Stevens' "Carrie & Lowell" and Bjork's "Vulnicura".....both are heartbreaking as fukk but I can't really relate to the subject matter, but both draw a feeling out of me that I can't put into words. Its pictures painted in my ears.

oh ok, i see. you white

 

[Adam3000]

oh ok, i see. you white

Yeah, but you kinda missed the point I think

D'Angelo's Black Messiah is my favorite album released in the last 22 months and my favorite songs on it are all the ones I relate to the least

The topics are barely important to me in comparison to how they are presented

 

[Lil Wango]

Yeah, but you kinda missed the point I think

D'Angelo's Black Messiah is my favorite album released in the last 22 months and my favorite songs on it are all the ones I relate to the least

The topics are barely important to me in comparison to how they are presented

well d'angelo and kendrick is two separate albums, don't know why they getting compared, maybe the jazz factor. but unless you getting affected by the shyt he rappin about i don't know what to tell you. maybe listen to it at least 5 times before judging it. my first listen a lot of the content went over my head.

and i thought it was presented greatly, a linear story from beginning to end.

 

[Adam3000]

well d'angelo and kendrick is two separate albums, don't know why they getting compared, maybe the jazz factor. but unless you getting affected by the shyt he rappin about i don't know what to tell you. maybe listen to it at least 5 times before judging it. my first listen a lot of the content went over my head.

and i thought it was presented greatly, a linear story from beginning to end.

Yeah, I understand

I already gave it 6 spins. 6th spin a lot of it clicked that hadn't clicked before. I'm gonna give it a few more chances. But I already said I gave it 4.25 mics, so it aint like I'm trashing it

Side note...the reason its getting compared to Black Messiah is because conceptually both are pretty similar. They take both their genres to new heights musically that hadn't been seen in years. They both have militant undertones even though the subject matter isn't exactly the same. Both are ambitious as fukk. They are the two most critically acclaimed albums in the last 10 years. And they were both released in the last 3 months. The comparison is natural.

 

[A.V.]

oh ok, i see. you white

 

[Pool_Shark]

Is it fukk Your Ethnicity or Blacker The Berry?

 

[HearNoEvil]

Is it fukk Your Ethnicity or Blacker The Berry?

I'll defend Kendrick by saying that people change. He went to South Africa breh, everyone changes after going there. Funny shyt though.

 

[Pool_Shark]

I'll defend Kendrick by saying that people change. He went to South Africa breh, everyone changes after going there. Funny shyt though.

Look through this thread you'll see I'm a fan of everything about this album but that was one of the things about the album that has me I remember someone on here making a thread asking if Pro-Black is the new trend. You're right though people change, let's see if K.Dot is consistent with this albums theme or if this was just a gimmick.

 

[Rain]

I gotta stop listening to this

 

[EA]

Look through this thread you'll see I'm a fan of everything about this album but that was one of the things about the album that has me I remember someone on here making a thread asking if Pro-Black is the new trend. You're right though people change, let's see if K.Dot is consistent with this albums theme or if this was just a gimmick.

I wouldn't even call it a gimmick but alongside Black Messiah, this will go down as an album that is reflective of the socio-policitical times. Similar to What's Going On by Marvin Gaye.

As a black man, I don't expect him to feel obligated to make another pro-black album because the times may not put him in that creative/emotional space by the time he's working on another album.

 

[Piff Perkins]

from the Terrace Martin interview with Complex:

I don’t know what to call this album. Some people call it jazz. I just call it a bunch of the homies playing, and going hard. It’s heavily jazz-influenced, but it’s heavily black in general! We didn’t listen to the Beatles to do this record. No disrespect. We didn’t listen to the Who, we didn’t listen to the Rolling Stones. We listened to Parliament. We listened to John Coltrane. We listened to Biggie. We listened to ’Pac. We listened to Lord Finesse. We listened to Don Blackman, Marcus Miller. We listened to Bernard Wright, Kenny Garret, Sonny Stitt, "Cannonball" Adderley, Ambrose (Akinmusire), we listened to Freddie Hubbard and Clark Terry. A Tribe Called Quest was a huge influence on this record. Jimi Hendrix, B.B. King, Guitar Shorty, Bobby Blue Bland, Little Walter, Little Richard—all the Littles!

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/03/interview-terrace-martin-producer-to-pimp-a-butterfly

 

[A.V.]

from the Terrace Martin interview with Complex:

I don’t know what to call this album. Some people call it jazz. I just call it a bunch of the homies playing, and going hard. It’s heavily jazz-influenced, but it’s heavily black in general! We didn’t listen to the Beatles to do this record. No disrespect. We didn’t listen to the Who, we didn’t listen to the Rolling Stones. We listened to Parliament. We listened to John Coltrane. We listened to Biggie. We listened to ’Pac. We listened to Lord Finesse. We listened to Don Blackman, Marcus Miller. We listened to Bernard Wright, Kenny Garret, Sonny Stitt, "Cannonball" Adderley, Ambrose (Akinmusire), we listened to Freddie Hubbard and Clark Terry. A Tribe Called Quest was a huge influence on this record. Jimi Hendrix, B.B. King, Guitar Shorty, Bobby Blue Bland, Little Walter, Little Richard—all the Littles!

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/03/interview-terrace-martin-producer-to-pimp-a-butterfly

Institutionalized & You Ain't Gotta Lie are damn near odes to Tribe. Gives you such an feeling...

 

[jamaicaiwonder1993]

Look through this thread you'll see I'm a fan of everything about this album but that was one of the things about the album that has me I remember someone on here making a thread asking if Pro-Black is the new trend. You're right though people change, let's see if K.Dot is consistent with this albums theme or if this was just a gimmick.

Blacker the Berry was more of a reply to the people who called him a c00n for his Ferguson comments than it is being pro black. I mean why would he work with Anna Wise out of all the singers in the world so much if he really cared about ethnicity

 

[Abstract83]

Institutionalized & You Ain't Gotta Lie are damn near odes to Tribe. Gives you such an feeling...

He had that Andre 3000/Erykah Badu flow on "You Aint Gotta Lie" too

 

[CASHAPP]

JayGLiteHarlem
5 months ago

Kendrick look like pure struggle. That means the album should be fire.


Its hilarious how that post was from 5 months ago and the person who wrote it was completely on point.