mastermind
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what are you writing?Yall really in here comparing the 2000 NBA version to the 2012 version of the NBA and beyond....?Make it make sense....
Kenyon Martin takes Draymond to the glue factory and list 50 PFs better than him all time.
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Field Marshall Bradley
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mastermind
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You’re comparing 2 different eras of basketball but making a direct comparison in regards to the roles of power forwards, when their roles are drastically different now. The power forward role of yesteryear is not the same as today.
I hate the resume argument, especially when the stats don't match. His stats are that of an average player role player. He has 3-4 seasons that he averaged over 10 ppg, 0 seasons that he avg a dbl-dbl, And Draymond as a role player gets praised more than every other role player. Why is he praised more than Horace Grant (4 rings)? Ron Harper (3 rings), Derek Fisher (5 rings), Spider (4 rings), LO (2 rings), Sam Cassell (2 rings), Kerr (5 rings)...all role players with multiple rings, and most have seasons greater than Draymond. Hell, LO did what Draymond did, better than Draymond, never been an AS, by all accounts considered an underachiever and still isn't viewed as a HOFer. There are easily 50 better PFs all-time than Draymond.
The problem with Draymond that separates what should be a HOF player is he's not the same player depending on who he plays with. He's significantly worst. At least the other players brought the same no matter who they played with. I don't think you can praise one role player for their impact, when there are other role players with the same or greater impact, and greater players, but not praise them based on the era they played in.
The problem with Draymond that separates what should be a HOF player is he's not the same player depending on who he plays with. He's significantly worst. At least the other players brought the same no matter who they played with. I don't think you can praise one role player for their impact, when there are other role players with the same or greater impact, and greater players, but not praise them based on the era they played in.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Was this before or after I said KG was the only who showed he was capable of playing like Draymond As he played PG for Minnesota and was usually their facilitator season?
mastermind
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Draymond has more all star appearances and all NBA seasons than every person you named, combined.
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Field Marshall Bradley
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Was KG the exception nor the rule.. It’s akin to saying that point guard in the 80s couldn’t shoot threes, when the truth is that most didn’t shoot threes simply because it wasn’t a major part of the game, and their roles back then..
mastermind
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If others could do it, they would have been given the opportunity. Its not like there are a bunch of Draymond types in the NBA right now.
I watched Webber try to do it in DC and struggle. Then they brought Rod Strickland and his career trajectory changed.
Yeah Go check Joker on on one Barkley lolI'm pretty sure Barkley with prime Steph/Klay would win ships too but if you place Dray on those Suns teams they aren't going very far
He is a product of his team while still being integral which is cool, but IDK why its so hard for some folks to admit that.
Help Guard Russ and KD Barkley
Warriors aint winning shyt if Barkley was played the exact minutes of Dray
Bigblackted4
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He averaged 5 assist pre game in the dead ball area. What would he do with spacing
I love KG but he aint win shyt til he started playing with two elite perimeter players too on two different occasions
People criticize Dray cause he played for the team that drafted him lol
People criticize Dray cause he played for the team that drafted him lol
VegetasHairline
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Who was he supposed to win with in Minnesota? He made the WCF the first year he had actual talent around him.
blackestofpanthers
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Not only that, but KG was better than Allen and pierce, Draymond wasn’t better than klay, Steph, nor kd. What are we even talking about hereWho was he supposed to win with in Minnesota? He made the WCF the first year he had actual talent around him.
The warriors run off 4 straight minimum with KG instead of Draymond
We would have been like the bill russell Celtics with Garnett instead of Draymond.
He is one of the best defensive players ever
What dont yall get. Basketball is more than just offense
And he is the leader on offense on team with arguably the best point guard ever
The man is 9x all defense
2x all nba
4x all star
Steal champ
And you asking why is he celebrated and horace grant is not lol
Yall keep parroting that who he played with shyt lol