Kevin Durant Averaging 28 PPG While Shooting 57% From The Field

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That's 2012-13 and 2013-14. I remember seeing the chart of his efficiency climbing annually until he went back to Cleveland. 49% in 2008-09, 50% in 2009-10, 51% in 2010-11, 53% and then those two years you referenced right there. It then dropped back around 49-50% in 2014-15. I did forget he scored at that rate and efficiency in 2013-14 though. I missed most of that season working nights and having class at nights.
 

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Pretend like 2015 wasn't a year, brehs.


Burn a guys jersey and then stan him like an abused wife when he comes back, because you're that desperate for a championship brehs.

Lose in the World Series, brehs.

Have literally so little going on in your city that the country gives you the rock and roll hall of fame out of pity, brehs.

Live in Ohio, brehs.
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Magic started that game at center for the jump ball. He didn't play it the entire game and the Lakers couldn't survive with him taking on that type of defensive role. He was often hidden when facing quick guards and was better suited to guard forwards rather than his own position. Definitely didn't play defense better than most and earned his legacy with his offensive greatness. Same with Oscar Robertson

I'm sure you consider Dirk Nowitzki to be an all time great despite his defensive limitations. When your offense is that gamechanging, it can make up for a lot of flaws you have on the other end of the court.

edit: barkley is worth mentioning too
I consider curry an all time great. and the best offensive player in the league

My thing is, he's not going to be placed, IMO, over great two way players. Kwahi can't score like him. But his huge gap in defense vs curry makes up for the few fewer points he scores.

It's not like we comparing 30 ppg to 10. Chris Paul ain't too far off ppg of curry, but I know I can stick him on point guard in the league. And the assists are close as well


So top 3. Nah. He's a one fukking amazing trick pony. He can score. But put him on the cavs or clippers or any other team without 4 all pros, I don't see him carrying a team on his back
 

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This is a horrible assumption that Warriors don't have to play D either. My God this post is so one sided :mjlol:

This is a horrible assumption that the content of my post was an overall analysis of a Cavs/W's matchup and not just bringing up a secondary benefit of Kevin Durant added to the team in a specifically Kevin Durant thread.

Obviously the Warriors have to play D and there's huge questions about their defense as well right now.

- They still have to prove they can slow down Kyrie who can get buckets anywhere on the floor (KD doesn't adress that)
- They still have to prove they can box out Tristan Thompson and not let him wreak havoc on both ends (KD doesn't address that)
- They still have to prove they can beat a stable Cavs roster in their 3rd year of playing together.

Cavs and Warriors have essentially traded places. In 2014-2015, Warriors core had been together 3 years and were a well oiled machine while Lebron was added to a talented core that was still learning how to play together. In 2016-2017, the Cavs core is now in it's 3rd year of playing together and playing like a well oiled machine while Durant was added to a talented core that's currently learning how to play together.
 

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Then when GS gets clapped up by the clippers or spurs cuz they have no interior defense it will be durant and curry are still injured :skip:
 

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That block was easy man you nikkas clearly don't play basketball

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Lebron doesn't do shyt in the Finals, and he needed fukkin Kevin Love to help him win a ring...

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You fukkin morons. :deadmanny:
 

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I consider curry an all time great. and the best offensive player in the league

My thing is, he's not going to be placed, IMO, over great two way players. Kwahi can't score like him. But his huge gap in defense vs curry makes up for the few fewer points he scores.

It's not like we comparing 30 ppg to 10. Chris Paul ain't too far off ppg of curry, but I know I can stick him on point guard in the league. And the assists are close as well


So top 3. Nah. He's a one fukking amazing trick pony. He can score. But put him on the cavs or clippers or any other team without 4 all pros, I don't see him carrying a team on his back

Well the greatest shooter of all time has to be an all time great
 

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I consider curry an all time great. and the best offensive player in the league

My thing is, he's not going to be placed, IMO, over great two way players. Kwahi can't score like him. But his huge gap in defense vs curry makes up for the few fewer points he scores.

It's not like we comparing 30 ppg to 10. Chris Paul ain't too far off ppg of curry, but I know I can stick him on point guard in the league. And the assists are close as well


So top 3. Nah. He's a one fukking amazing trick pony. He can score. But put him on the cavs or clippers or any other team without 4 all pros, I don't see him carrying a team on his back

You really can't stick Paul on any point guard in this league. That's actually the problem when comparing two way players, it's overstated just how great they are and how influential they can be against top competition.

Last time Paul saw Westbrook in the playoffs this happened



Now if that was Steph Curry we'd be talking about how he got exposed against an elite PG. In reality he's as reliant on the teammates around him as Curry or any other great point guard in this league

Offensively Paul doesn't play with near the same aggression nor are defenses as afraid of him nor is he as skilled as a shooter or finisher. It might seem like they're relatively close offensively, but they're on different levels.

Same goes for Kawhi who's increased offensive usage has actually led to worse defensive impact than we've seen in recent seasons. He's not playing like a DPOY right now, and the Spurs thus far are much worse defensively than they were last year. He is reliant on the guys around him too.

As for his ability to carry a team without a bunch of stars around him, Curry already proved that four seasons ago. People forget about how good he was prior to the MVP talk









I get the sentiment but he for sure isn't one dimensional (and neither are Dirk or Nash who get tagged with that too). He does a lot of very difficult things at an elite level in this league, and all of that skill combined is why he's the b2b MVP with a stretch of play that rivals some of the best to ever do it
 

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This is a horrible assumption that the content of my post was an overall analysis of a Cavs/W's matchup and not just bringing up a secondary benefit of Kevin Durant added to the team in a specifically Kevin Durant thread.

Obviously the Warriors have to play D and there's huge questions about their defense as well right now.

- They still have to prove they can slow down Kyrie who can get buckets anywhere on the floor (KD doesn't adress that)
- They still have to prove they can box out Tristan Thompson and not let him wreak havoc on both ends (KD doesn't address that)
- They still have to prove they can beat a stable Cavs roster in their 3rd year of playing together.

Cavs and Warriors have essentially traded places. In 2014-2015, Warriors core had been together 3 years and were a well oiled machine while Lebron was added to a talented core that was still learning how to play together. In 2016-2017, the Cavs core is now in it's 3rd year of playing together and playing like a well oiled machine while Durant was added to a talented core that's currently learning how to play together.


Yupp I agree. Also Kevin Love has gelled way better in the offense than last season, he's found his place in it and is shining. Kevin Love played like shyt the whole series and they still won

Warriors are going to be susceptible to two things

- 3 bigs on the Cavs all have a jumpshot. Lebron (when he plays the 4 or 5), Love, Frye
- 3 bigs that can average 10 rebounds a game. Lebron, Thompson, Love
 
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