Kevin Durant is better then Kobe ever was true or false?

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Durant averaged 30 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 block in the 2012 Finals

at 23 years old (Durant played MUCH better than LeBron did in the 07 Finals at 23)

But in LeBron Stan world he got embarrassed
23 year old LeBron with KD’s supporting cast probably wins the damn title though.
 

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Kobe was a great scorer and he pl
ayed a ton of playoff games...but LeBron, who is a playoff choker and useless beyond 3 feet according to our coli analysts, has significantly more playoff points than Kobe despite fewer games played. How can this be reconciled? How can the player heralded as the ultimate killer, the player who can beat you by himself, the player who elevates to zones greater than MJ, how does he not have an extensive collection of playoff feats? He has close to 3 full NBA seasons worth of playoff games. This isn't some small sample size that can be brushed off.

My favorite part of that analysis is that multiple Kobestans have told me that Kobe is unguardable due to his versatility, while Lebron is certainly guardable due to his limitations. If Kobe is unguardable, then why does he only shoot 41% in the Finals? It can't be the defense, because no defense can stop him (and his defenders in the Finals have been average or worse anyway). So is Kobe consistently choking on the biggest stage? I never hear the answer to this.



the disrespect kobe gets sometimes is wild

if u wanna get mad at people saying kobe is better than lebron or jordan whatever

but he won 5 titles and went 7 times, like fukk do u want

Why do people keep saying this like it's an end-all?

Horry won even more...so what? How many stars could have won 3, 4, 5 titles with Shaq and Phil Jackson? A LOT. So how does Kobe really compare to other superstars? We need a lot more information than "5 titles".
 

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Lol @ at these narratives about "heart" and "toughness" and "alpha dawg" and "intangibles" and "warrior spirit" being used to prop up Kobe because people can't just accept that KD is better than him at basketball :pachaha:

nikkas talking about KD being a bytch when this nikka Kobe literally quit on his team in a game fukking 7 by refusing to shoot on some petty nikka shyt :snoop:

Dudes talking about "Kobe would never"

1. As if he didn't spend his entire career playing for Los Angeles fukking Lakers, the best franchise in basket ball history which is hyper-committed to winning above all else and surrounding their superstars with the best talent possible.

2. As if this nikka wasn't on his way out the door until Lakers finessed their way into getting freakishly talented and criminally underrated Pau Gasol to pair with Odom, Bynum and Artest so Kobe could inefficiently chuck to his heart's content while the most talented front court of the last 20 years balled out in final after final.

shyt, speaking of the finals, KD's 2012 finals high key shyts on any of Kobe's outside of maybe 2002. And let's not even talk about last year's performance. Not bad for a choker beta bytch afraid of the big moment :mjgrin:

Kobe fans better be thankful for those 5 rings cuz that's the only thing keeping him in the conversation compared to a lot of the current greats. LeBron is already clearly superior to him. Y'all better hope KD don't rack up more rings and cements what I already know is true.
 

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At some point we gotta start ignoring nikkas with their Kobe hate

It's becoming obnoxious

If you don't like the nikka, fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

But the nikka won 5 rings and dominated the league for a time period.

Acting like he was garbage is flat out ignoring reality.
 

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You basically penalizing Durant for being a vastly better shooter than Bryant :comeon:

That’s why KD has more assisted baskets because he is elite in C&S and as an off-ball cutter

KD with a green light like Jan 2014 and the right pieces around him could easily do what you saying. :shaq2:

Durant had Harden, Westbrook and Ibaka for years and never did anything :yawn:

Kobe would've won with that lineup

Young Kobe or Old Kobe
 

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What the fukk does this even mean smh

Durant has a better jumper than Kobe....it's automatic. Steph and Durant are natural shooters.

Kobe's jumper isn't as good...its a bit more streaky but, when he's on he's deadly. Despite that, Kobe maximized his talent better than Durant.

Which is all that matters at the end of the day.
 

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My favorite part of that analysis is that multiple Kobestans have told me that Kobe is unguardable due to his versatility, while Lebron is certainly guardable due to his limitations. If Kobe is unguardable, then why does he only shoot 41% in the Finals? It can't be the defense, because no defense can stop him (and his defenders in the Finals have been average or worse anyway). So is Kobe consistently choking on the biggest stage? I never hear the answer to this.





Why do people keep saying this like it's an end-all?

Horry won even more...so what? How many stars could have won 3, 4, 5 titles with Shaq and Phil Jackson? A LOT. So how does Kobe really compare to other superstars? We need a lot more information than "5 titles".

thats a cop out argument , Horry is a role player

shaq won 1 title without kobe when he was washed up averaging 15 points a game carried by wade

kobe won 2 without shaq as the main player winning mvp
 

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At some point we gotta start ignoring nikkas with their Kobe hate

It's becoming obnoxious

If you don't like the nikka, fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

But the nikka won 5 rings and dominated the league for a time period.

Acting like he was garbage is flat out ignoring reality.
Dominated with 1 MVP, which should have gone to Cp3.
 

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Most importantly, Kobe seen his highest scoring after Shaq been gone

2008 against Utah: 33/7/7 on 49%
2008 against Denver: 33/6/6/1.5/1.5 on 50%

2009 against Denver:34/5/5 on 48%
2009 against HOU: 25/5/3 on 45%
2009 against Utah: 25/5/7 on 46%

Was 2009 Playoffs leader in scoring

2010 against Suns: 33/7/8 on 52%
2010 against Jazz: 32/3/5 on 52%
2010 against OKC: 23/4/4 on 40%

Where was Shaq? or is this the time where we goalpost move some more to act like Pau was Shaq-Lite?

2009 vs Houston. 7 games and they didn't even have T-Mac and no Yao the last 4 games :hhh:

2010 against Suns. Artest Saved him.
2010 vs OKC. Gasol Saved him. Those shooting % :scust:
 

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Naah still got that image of Durant choking away 3-1
That's funny I remember Bean choking away a 3-1 lead in 2006 after acting like a buffoon a few games earlier


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the disrespect kobe gets sometimes is wild

if u wanna get mad at people saying kobe is better than lebron or jordan whatever

but he won 5 titles and went 7 times, like fukk do u want
They want him to win back to back titles with Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook, Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and Smush Parker. Even if he did that, they would say he didnt pass enough to those guys. When he did pass to those guys, they accused him of quitting on his team, after he posted 50 the game before and they criticized him for not passing enough.
 
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