Kevin Love & media hypocrisy

[Colilluminati]

The story for Melo was he was going home

 

[Walt]

I could add so much more to this, but this summed it up quite well and I don't have all night, but it's even little things that ate away at Love.

Love is not a victim in this, but when you take into account everything, nobody's gonna side with the party with 10 years of incompetence and counting.

Despite my willingness to let Love walk, for the most part I can't blame him for being mad. I can't. I wish he had more accountability for his fukkups, but it's hard to not say "can't blame him"

Yeah, I know there's plenty I don't know, and obviously his teammates are at worst disdainful of him and at best apathetic toward him, which is a bad sign.

Also, Minneapolis is a really nice city for a lot of reasons, but it's not a nice city to be a man playing professional basketball. The Wolves rank 27th out of 30 NBA teams in attendance. The Minnesota Wild draw more fans per game. Even the WNBA Minnesota Lynx rank 2nd in the entire league in attendance. shyt, people in the Twin Cities probably get more excited about high school hockey than the Wolves. The place is and will always be a Vikings and Twins city. The Wolves are like the 5th most popular team in the Twin Cities, nobody gives a fukk about Kevin Love.

 

[Brozay]

the wolves didnt extend him the full five year max

i dont think anything else needs to be added

 

[The God Poster]

I for one am on record as saying fuk kevin love.









































And fuk @tremonthustler1 too. Just take Waiters & pics.
That Wiggins/Bron Fastbreak highlight reel

 

[Ain't That Something]

Yeah, I know there's plenty I don't know, and obviously his teammates are at worst disdainful of him and at best apathetic toward him, which is a bad sign.

Also, Minneapolis is a really nice city for a lot of reasons, but it's not a nice city to be a man playing professional basketball. The Wolves rank 27th out of 30 NBA teams in attendance. The Minnesota Wild draw more fans per game. Even the WNBA Minnesota Lynx rank 2nd in the entire league in attendance. shyt, people in the Twin Cities probably get more excited about high school hockey than the Wolves. The place is and will always be a Vikings and Twins city. The Wolves are like the 5th most popular team in the Twin Cities, nobody gives a fukk about Kevin Love.

Forgive me If I'm wrong Basketball Guru's weren't the Cav's as inept as the Wolves are right now untill they drafted Lebron then went ahead and surrounded him with shyt

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

I dapped that dahell picture, but I agree with Tre. The dynamic is different, for a lot of reasons, one being the inarguable ineptitude of the Timberwolves organization.

A review of the Timberwolves front office ineptitude is so staggering it’s difficult to choose the most ludicrous characteristic: the incestuous nature of the NBA in general and the Wolves specifically; the tendency of the organization to reward mediocre retreads; the lack of obvious qualifications among those hired; the inanity of the decisions made by those whose hirings themselves were strange enough to begin with.

In 1994 the Timberwolves hired Kevin McHale as soon as he retired from playing; in under two years McHale went from the nebulous job description of TV analyst/Special Assistant to Assistant GM to Vice President of Basketball Operations – at which point McHale promptly hired his former college teammate Flip Saunders as head coach. McHale drafted Kevin Garnett, then undercut that move by colluding with Joe Smith to manipulate the NBA’s salary cap regulations, thus handicapping the franchise’s ability to build during Garnett’s prime.

McHale would later fire Saunders, assume coaching duties for 31 games, hire and quickly fire Dwane Casey, promote then-assistant Randy Wittman, give former Celtic teammate Danny Ainge the gift of Kevin Garnett and an immediate championship, fire Randy Wittman and assume the head coaching position again for a season before leaving to take the same job in Houston. Meanwhile, Saunders went on to coach in Detroit and Washington, the latter of which fired him and replaced him with… Randy Wittman. Within a year Flip Saunders became part-owner of and President of Basketball Operations for the Timberwolves. At the end of this past season, Saunders became, once again, the Wolves’ head coach. Rational observers are left to wonder if the NBA executive fraternity is actually a favor-trading sect of Scientology.

Can anyone fault Kevin Love for his confusion about and lack of faith in organizational direction? Not only have Wolves’ officials failed to surround him with suitable talent, they have openly and consistently antagonized their best player. There has long been a tendency within the organization to measure Love by his weaknesses rather than his strengths. Randy Wittman discouraged Love from utilizing his range; Kurt Rambis kept Love on an inexplicably tight leash, rarely inserting him in the starting lineup and sitting him for long stretches despite production that was impressive by the most basic and advanced statistical measures.

Love languished on thin-on-talent rosters that seemed cobbled together by sheer whimsy. Sports reporter turned real estate mogul turned basketball executive David Kahn submitted a 4 year stint as GM that was so beyond the grasp of logic it could have served as the answer to “what if David Lynch made a movie about a General Manager in the NBA?”

During Kahn’s tenure the Wolves drafted Ricky Rubio, Johnny Flynn, and Ty Lawson over Steph Curry, then promptly shipped Lawson out in a pre-arranged deal; selected Wesley Johnson when Demarcus Cousins, Paul George, Greg Monroe, and Larry Sanders were still available; picked Derrick Williams ahead of Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard; drafted Chandler Parsons and traded him for cash the same night. They also purged a young, super-skilled Al Jefferson, then used the resultant cap space for… Darko Milicic.

Against any hint of self-preservation, Love was still willing to sign a five-year max contract that would’ve guaranteed his presence until 2017 – but the Wolves’ expressed skepticism of his worth, preferring a shorter deal with a player option. Owner Glenn Taylor wondered aloud if Love could be deemed a star given the Wolves’ lack of playoff appearances. In recent weeks Flip Saunders advised Love to redirect his frustrations with the lack of team success inward (aka STFU). To call the organization’s relationship with Kev Luv X dysfunctional would be understatement.

Also, people weren't overly critical,of Chris Paul for doing a similar thing - which is to exercise some semblance of control over his career while it was clearly being wasted by a bumbling franchise - when he wanted out of New Orleans.

Now, do white players in American sports tend to get less criticism than blacks for similar behavior at times? Inarguably. But this is a case that isn't quite as cut and dry as that.

 

[tremonthustler1]

the wolves didnt extend him the full five year max

i dont think anything else needs to be added

But they had every right to not give him that deal and assuming he got that deal, we'd be here today (otherwise, this whole "i'm tired of losing" shyt would be an absolute farce.) Love only wanted a 5 year deal because his homies got one. It was less about getting to help the team and more about feeding a growing ego. Kahn gave him a 4 year max after a game (gave him that shyt kinda improperly) and Love threw it in the trash. He wanted 5 and if he didn't get the deal Rose got and Westbrook got, fukk em. He opted for the 3 + player option to cover his bases.

Love not being treated like the player he isn't is what's culminating in what's going on now.

It didn't help that Kahn had no filter about what he thought of Love. Love didn't fit his long term and only extended an olive branch because Love put up numbers. He tried giving him away (almost traded him TWICE to move up in a draft. Once for Rubio, the other time I believe was intended for either Paul George or to package 5 and 6 for Favors). Kahn said publicly that Love was at best a third or fourth best player on a contender. He was dead on about that, but that's not something you say days into your new job. Love's a sensitive dude. He remembered that, and he got Kahn back. He threw his teammates under the bus in the process, but he remembered everything.

 

[Walt]

Forgive me If I'm wrong Basketball Guru's weren't the Cav's as inept as the Wolves are right now untill they drafted Lebron then went ahead and surrounded him with shyt

I'd say the Cavs were inept, but less inept than the Wolves. The Cavs also catered to LeBron and his people whereas the Wolves antagonized Love. Of course, LeBron is better than Love, so that makes a little bit of sense. On the other hand, the situations were different - Bron was a free agent who did "the decision" special on espn after he seemingly quit on the his team in the playoffs and the media and public scrutiny reached a fever pitch. Love's situation is more like CP3's except Love hasn't had the impact of CP3 (not even worth comparing his impact to Bron's) so no one cares. Again, no one in his team's city even cares. One of the big reasons it's a non-story is local media and fans give no fukks about the Wolves or Love. I was there during All Star weekend, and when I asked people about Kevin Love I might as well have been asking them about Shabba Ranks or Scott Baio or some shyt. For the most past there was a vague recognition of the name and a shrug. People there still get more excited to discuss Garnett than Love. And they ain't even that excited about KG either.

 

[Osmosis]

Love is a number two option while Melo is a number one option.

 

[USSInsiders]

Has nothing to do with that at all. Let's dead that before it snowballs into that.

The reason why nobody jumps on Love for the shyt he's pulling is mostly because nobody feels bad for the team he's hurting.

I repeat, nobody feels bad for the team he's hurting.

Besides that about 90-percent of the media never saw this overrated fakkit play. Timberwolves games are on ESPN like twice a year and nobody outside of Minneapolis watches those shytty ass games.

Most of the people in the media are just quoting stats. Love is the most overrated overvalued player in the NBA bar none. He's a better rebounding, better passing Ryan Anderson.

If the Cavs dump Wiggins for him it would be hilarious

 

[Walt]

But they had every right to not give him that deal and assuming he got that deal, we'd be here today (otherwise, this whole "i'm tired of losing" shyt would be an absolute farce.) Love only wanted a 5 year deal because his homies got one. It was less about getting to help the team and more about feeding a growing ego. Kahn gave him a 4 year max after a game (gave him that shyt kinda improperly) and Love threw it in the trash. He wanted 5 and if he didn't get the deal Rose got and Westbrook got, fukk em. He opted for the 3 + player option to cover his bases.

Love not being treated like the player he isn't is what's culminating in what's going on now.

It didn't help that Kahn had no filter about what he thought of Love. Love didn't fit his long term and only extended an olive branch because Love put up numbers. He tried giving him away (almost traded him TWICE to move up in a draft. Once for Rubio, the other time I believe was intended for either Paul George or to package 5 and 6 for Favors). Kahn said publicly that Love was at best a third or fourth best player on a contender. He was dead on about that, but that's not something you say days into your new job. Love's a sensitive dude. He remembered that, and he got Kahn back. He threw his teammates under the bus in the process, but he remembered everything.

Gotdamn you hate Kev Luv X da outlet passing GAWD

 

[Walt]

@TheyCallMeAzul another big difference was George Karl has a very good relationship with the media and was able to get his version of the Melo narrative out there for people to report and debate. The Wolves don't have that going for them either.

 

[USSInsiders]

I'd say the Cavs were inept, but less inept than the Wolves. The Cavs also catered to LeBron and his people whereas the Wolves antagonized Love. Of course, LeBron is better than Love, so that makes a little bit of sense. On the other hand, the situations were different - Bron was a free agent who did "the decision" special on espn after he seemingly quit on the his team in the playoffs and the media and public scrutiny reached a fever pitch. Love's situation is more like CP3's except Love hasn't had the impact of CP3 (not even worth comparing his impact to Bron's) so no one cares. Again, no one in his team's city even cares. One of the big reasons it's a non-story is local media and fans give no fukks about the Wolves or Love. I was there during All Star weekend, and when I asked people about Kevin Love I might as well have been asking them about Shabba Ranks or Scott Baio or some shyt. For the most past there was a vague recognition of the name and a shrug. People there still get more excited to discuss Garnett than Love. And they ain't even that excited about KG either.

This is because Love is one of those guys who could score 20 and grab 10 boards and it feels like he didn't do a damn thing most of the time. I've seen some dominant shooting games from him but he's never been a guy that jumps out and makes you say did you see that shyt?

He'd be great in the right situation but he's not the game changer a lot of people think he is. I'd rather see Wiggins grow n/h with Bron than see Love play with him. However, I think Love would rape people with his jumper if he got to play with Bron cause he's a legit sniper from the perimeter.

I just think Wiggins could be that perfect sidekick if they build him up the right way

 

[TheyCallMeAzul]

@TheyCallMeAzul another big difference was George Karl has a very good relationship with the media and was able to get his version of the Melo narrative out there for people to report and debate. The Wolves don't have that going for them either.

That's one thing I didn't factor in. He shyts on Melo to this day

 

[itsyoung!!]

the wolves didnt extend him the full five year max

i dont think anything else needs to be added