Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

KillerB88

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No dumbass, the point is that the numbers can't tell you much of anything and so he could make his point about marriageable men without bringing up shaky ass stats.
You keep calling them shaky, but the example you provided didn’t disprove anything. You just tried to shift the conversation to a slightly different taking point you couldn’t actually cement with hard data.
 

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Looking at national income data isn't going to provide enough context given the geographic costs of living differences, and so looking at income in context with metro is more appropriate--Pew's income calculator helps you do that.

On a national scale it depends on what you are using as the range of income in defining "middle class", Pew's range is $45k-135k and Brookings range is $22k-125k. But the issue is that such a wide range in income doesn't take into adequate consideration the wide gap in what a person making $45k has access to vs someone whose making $135k in the same metro.

And so, Kevin stating that 50% of Black men are in the middle class doesn't mean much considering the costs of living in the areas where most Black people live. Especially if his starting point is 30k and Black male median income even in high COL cities isn't much higher than the national average.
What you mean 50% of black men in the middle class dont mean much?

I realize people dont refute the numbers, just filibuster their opinion.
 
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What you mean 50% of black men in the middle class dont mean much?

I realize people dont refute the numbers, just filibuster their opinion.

I have already provided context and elaboration, along with links to show why him stating that 50% of Black men are in the middle class doesn't mean much, but let me repeat and once again explain myself in the clearest way possible:
  • There is no universal definition of "middle class" (reason I provided the different Brookings and Pew definition) but even if you used their definitions (or even the range on Blackdemographics), the middle income range being used is too wide to give you even a decent idea as to Black men's class position.
    • Plus the income data is limited in how much they can take into consideration differences in various metro's costs of living, and that's relevant given that class and income is relative( As Kevin himself acknowledges when often emphasizing $100k in ATL isn't the same as $100k in NY.) In statistic terms there is too much noise and not enough signal in the data to give you a decent picture.
      • And so, given that the income data because of the wide range can't tell you much, it doesn't make sense in my opinion to have it anchor one of his arguments regarding the amount of available Black men on the marriage market. In comparison, the numbers regarding Black men being childless and never being imprisoned are solid and have less noise, so I would not get at him about using those numbers.
 

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He usually posts one woman from the IG shows on YouTube. He usually speaks to 3-4 women on the IG lives. The ones he usually posts on YouTube are the women who are really outrageous or the ones that seem really positive and will make him/his content look good overall.

I prefer the IG shows because they're shorter and he rarely does the sound effects but now he uses them a lot but not as much as the YouTube shows. He also gets to the point quicker than to talk about candles, cologne, etc for twenty minutes and no money world or song intermission.

The IG show is kinda hit or miss with me. :ld:

No doubt some classic fukkery came from IG, but most of the time it's some obviously clout-chasing/trolling chicks on there or some broads that are convinced the man's a therapist and lay some heavy, emotional shyt that makes things awkward.
 

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Little girls pops died and she called Kevin :mjcry: . Really didn't know how to feel about that one

no lie, shorty was getting on my last nerve while listening. I thought something was off from jump, but later on once she said that shyt about her pops I understood. I think if she would have led with that from the get go, KS prolly wouldn't have even entertained her for so long cuz I can tell he was getting annoyed too.
 

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This is pathetic at this point. The first time in quite a while i get on his stream and he is having the same sound issues. The sound issues he is having should of been fixed months ago and even if he does not, at least read the chat to address it. Too many streamers have none of these issues for somebody making the money he is to have it. Going back to not watching because having these issues with technology is unforgivable at his level.
 

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This is pathetic at this point. The first time in quite a while i get on his stream and he is having the same sound issues. The sound issues he is having should of been fixed months ago and even if he does not, at least read the chat to address it. Too many streamers have none of these issues for somebody making the money he is to have it. Going back to not watching because having these issues with technology is unforgivable at his level.
He just sometimes forgets to press the mute button I allow it because he's old, but the other day they s said he had it unmuted the whole show...

Egregious...
 
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